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House Committee Approves Contempt Citation
As expected the House Judiciary Committee approved citations of contempt against Harriet Miers and Josh Bolten in a vote just a few minutes ago. The vote was along party lines, 22-17. We'll have more from the committee's meeting shortly.
The AP reports, citing "a senior Democratic official," that "a vote by the full House would most likely happen after Congress' August recess."
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asdf wrote on July 25, 2007 12:22 PM:Just when they give me something to cheer, those sniveling cowards take it away. Why the delay? Please don’t pretend the WH is going to capitulate.
Damn. Damn. Damn.
Slim Pickin's wrote on July 25, 2007 12:22 PM:"Elections have consequences."
Leta wrote on July 25, 2007 12:28 PM:Damn it - so just like the Iraqi government, they're going on vacation? If the vote was so important - why the hell did they make this dog and pony show - knowing that they'd wait 5 weeks to take it up. Pathetic - Jesus H Christ - I don't want to hear one damn word about the Iraqi goverment not taking their responsiblities seriously.
bobh wrote on July 25, 2007 12:29 PM:They're hoping the sniveling ratlings chained to the White house by Bush will blink and cave. Small hope but eh.
They might also have to ...... hell just get it over with.
Skippy Flipjack wrote on July 25, 2007 12:29 PM:Way to go, Republican congresspeople. Nice principled stance. When your august body requires someone's attendance, you vote in favor of letting them give you the finger. Keep fellating Dubya -- it'll help you in the next election for sure.
modmom wrote on July 25, 2007 12:29 PM:after August recess? Does Democracy take vacations?
T2 wrote on July 25, 2007 12:33 PM:"along party lines" Even when malfeasance and contempt is prima facia, the GOP cannot muster the decency to oppose the Bush/Cheney machine. They are the Party of Crooks and Liars..all of them.
pjsauter wrote on July 25, 2007 12:33 PM:>>Does Democracy take vacations?
It's been on vacation for about 6 years now.
exdem wrote on July 25, 2007 12:34 PM:Skippy, the repugs' fellating approach may not kill them in the end. I don't think I'm alone in being as unable to vote dem as to vote repug at this point. Truly, what is the effective difference?
Slim Pickin's wrote on July 25, 2007 12:37 PM:" after Congress' August recess."
CANCEL THE AUGUST RECESS!
Do your jobs.
xuli wrote on July 25, 2007 12:38 PM:September 13 is the date when the DC US Attorney's appointment expires. He is an unconfirmed crony with a Patriot Act clause appointment. A different USA might be more likely to enfornce.
ifthethunderdontgetya wrote on July 25, 2007 12:40 PM:Truly, what is the effective difference?
Posted by: exdem
Date: July 25, 2007 12:34 PM
Is this is a serious question? Take a look at who was voting to enable an American king today, and who is opposed. Think what will happen with the Supreme Court with another Alito on it.
Go ahead and vote for Nader if you want, fortunately most Americans have come to realize that the republican party is a threat to our way of life.
Leta wrote on July 25, 2007 12:41 PM:As much as I've hated the snivling cowards at times, their our cowards - the difference - if the Rethuglicans were in power - you'd of never seen or heard of US Attorney's, polticalization of the DOJ...need I go on? I prefer to think that they are in re-hab - since January - getting stronger everyday - we got contempt citations pass...this may I hope embolden them more -
kevo wrote on July 25, 2007 12:41 PM:Well, the Republicans of the HJC haven't caught on to our Middle Class ire on this matter. A vote along party lines shows us these Republicans are not serious about keeping institutional integrity for our democratic government. They are now at a precipice: show us their adherence to our Constitution and help us move forward on this unseemly business of "executive privilege" or show us their diehard partisan support for this WH and its obstructionism. If they show us the former, they will not fall in the next election cycle. If they choose the latter, they will be jumping to their electoral defeat in the next three election cycles. Mark my word! -Kevo
Roberta wrote on July 25, 2007 12:41 PM:I just wrote to my representative and urged him to push the vote up, before the August recess.
Make yourself heard. At some point they have to listen to their constituents.
melior wrote on July 25, 2007 12:49 PM:I watched it live, and I have to say you guys who made that mashup video with Josh of Alberto Gonzales' testimony did a fantastic job of distilling the entire sordid tragicomedy into just a few minutes of key snips. Very nice work.
It's incredible to imagine the power that simple reporting like this would have if it were ever allowed to air on what passes for teevee news.
Hey, look over there, it's Lindsay Lohan!
howlin wolf wrote on July 25, 2007 12:49 PM:They are obviously giving the W cult another chance for negotiation. They hope that the W's will actually come to their senses because Democratic congress "really means it this time".. The longer they kick this can down the road is more time taken away from a carrying out impeachment proceedings. Maybe thats what this is really about slow walking the process so that you don't have to actually get to impeachment and avoiding damaging those precious 08 prospects.
Slim Pickin's wrote on July 25, 2007 12:50 PM:Damn right - if the talking point is tha the Congress is a "do nothing" gang, then why not give them a big fat FU and stay for August recess. After all, our troops don't get August off. Neither do the police, US Attorneys, you get the idea. I really don't think we have a month to wait...
Billy Pilgrim wrote on July 25, 2007 1:01 PM:xuli @Jul 12:38 PM wrote >>
"September 13 is the date when the DC US Attorney's appointment expires."
As well prepared as Conyers/Leahy team are, this is obviously part of the game plan.
johnW1141 wrote on July 25, 2007 1:03 PM:"The AP reports, citing "a senior Democratic official," that "a vote by the full House would most likely happen after Congress' August recess."
Flip Wilson wrote on July 25, 2007 1:03 PM:More stalling. I think the Dems may be playing it safe for 08 by trying to run the clock out on the Bush Administration by not doing anything of substance which might cause some to get angry with them. Huff and puff seems to be the order of the day.
It sure seems like staying in session in August is such a great idea in both form and substance that they surely will not do it.
Barbara wrote on July 25, 2007 1:04 PM:I am so panicked about the people who think there is no difference between the parties, including my very own spouse. If you guys vote third party or stay home we could have 4 or 8 more years of these liars, cheaters, and theives. They have made serious inroads into the career positions in all agencies. I'm not saying all Dems are good and all Repubs are bad BUT we have to pull together to get the Repubs out, clean house, and ensure the honesty of our own party.
judyinnm wrote on July 25, 2007 1:06 PM:xuli has a point - a contempt citation has to be backed up with action. Makes sense to wait til there's a possibility of actual enforcement...
Larry from C wrote on July 25, 2007 1:10 PM:Is this INHERENT CONTEMPT??? Anybody know? That is THE Question yet there's no word yet!
Criminal Contempt is a BRICK WALL!
Jesse wrote on July 25, 2007 1:20 PM:While I tend to agree with those of you calling for the vote to be moved up, many of you might not realize that "recess" does not mean vacation. I'm on the district staff of a member, and for us "recess" means the member is in the district meeting with constituents and local groups.
For us, it's busy time, and it's an undeniably important part of being a Representative. Many of these constituents have been waiting for months to get these meetings, especially considering the fact that this year Congress has been voting 5 days a week instead of the 3 days they were last year.
That being said, they should move the vote up before the recess.
Harriet wrote on July 25, 2007 1:20 PM:I think I'll resign now. ... Oh, wait a minute... I have resigned!
Hmmmm "screw" ... Mired again!
Steve5117 wrote on July 25, 2007 1:25 PM:The republicans have the most to lose by letting things drag out. You can sense a feeling of panic developing on the right through the increased number of troll visits to TPM and other progressive sites. You'll see it on C-SPAN if you watch different hearings also. Jerks like Feeney show up with their WH scripted drivel and are being shot down with frequent reiteration of the facts.
Honesty is always the best option (especially when you can be imprisoned for lying), so how strange it is that republicans feel they can't affort to have the truth told.
There is still much to bring to light throughout all the Departments of Government. This has been the "Best Administration That Money Can Buy".
Serpent's Choice wrote on July 25, 2007 1:29 PM:In re: Larry,
This is statuatory, not inherent.
Craig wrote on July 25, 2007 1:33 PM:Uhhh... why have the August recess? As long as the troops in Iraq are working in 130 degree heat, the legislators can stick it out in DC. They surely owe THAT to the country.
This also prevents recess appointments.
And to top it off, maybe they should go about it "Founders" style -- turn off the AC and save some energy.
anonymous wrote on July 25, 2007 1:34 PM:I see not a single Republican has any self-respect, much less respect for the law.
No wonder Congress was such a doormat for Bush during the GOP reign.
Wow! A dozen posts and none of them JakeD.
Code word = glass, as in Republicans in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
Hot Karl Rove wrote on July 25, 2007 1:35 PM:Well I have to state that based on the past 6+ dreadful years the republicans are totally at fault here.
The republicans are the blank cheque enablers for the criminals at the white house.
The purpoted "independence" of the likes of Sen Collins and friends is a sham. Every single time we, the nation needed some integrity form these so called "moderates" they voted party line.
Where were these "moderates" during Alito and Roberts? Where were these "moderates" when the Iraq funding votes surfaced? Where were these "moderates" during all of the obstructionist fillibusters from their own party?
Do I seem angry? Yes I am, granted the Dems have shown an appaling lack of spine however who woulden't when fighting Goliath. Look at what happened to Daschle for example. The deck is stacked against the dems and it's still stacked. Just read your local cat box liner or watch your corporate news for evidence.
The problems are not just the Bush 2 WH they are the republicans, the republicans who piss on the constitution.
So what I'm saying is , what's wrong with blaming the ENTIRE republican party?
They are at fault, time to call 'em out.
Lindy wrote on July 25, 2007 1:43 PM:Actually, if they do wait until after the August recess (which I don't think they should be having in this emergency), they will probably use the time to insure they have the votes to get the contempt citation. I guess that's where citizens come in to put pressure on their representatives to support the Contempt of Congress vote.
Crust wrote on July 25, 2007 1:45 PM:What's the makeup of the committee? A 22-17 vote does not sound like a vote along party lines.
disgrunt wrote on July 25, 2007 1:49 PM:AFTER the August recess...?! Seems to me we are in the midst of a constitutional crisis... Shouldn't "We the people" be demanding that our representatives stay on the job, shoulder up to the challenge, and bring results, which include saying "You're fired!" How can Nancy and Harry let everyone go on vacation? There's a job to do... I'd call it defending our country...
paul lukasiak wrote on July 25, 2007 1:57 PM:crust...
the make up of the committee is 22-16. (so where did the extra vote come from...watching the committee procedings, I think Feeney's no vote was recorded twice.)
Btw... I just had a comment placed in moderation with links to the 52 page judiciary report, and the CRS report of the background of Congressional Contempt powers. Both are linked from Balkanization, but you'll have to find them yourself because I HAVE commented here before, but the reason I'm told my comment is held for moderation is that I'm supposedly a new commenter... I think its because I included 3 links, however
Anna S. wrote on July 25, 2007 1:58 PM:It's an interesting point that the DC attorney's appointment expires in the middle of August, but I'm wondering how that would matter. Historically, USAs have been allowed to stay in office long after their appointment expires as long as no one complains, or the Prez doesn't decide he wants someone else in the post. Unless Bush makes a move, the DC attorney will still be the same person. And I doubt very seriously that Bush will make a move, because the prospect of Congressional hearings for a new USA at that time could best be described as 'nightmarish' by the Bush team.
The biggest advantage (and this one is a double-edged sword) that I can see is that waiting til after the August recess puts the contempt vote almost simultaneous with the upcoming September round of Iraq deliberations. And if Bushco pushes hard on Constitutional shenanigans with the contempt proceedings, it makes them look even worse in combination with Iraq report at that time. It's a political coup to be able to trumpet that you're trying two (or more) officials for contempt, and the Dems can make noise about it and turn it into negative publicity for the Repubs at a crucial time. From what I can see, the Dem leadership is hoping that things will snowball in the lead-up to September, and maybe the contempt proceedings and the WH's Gonzalez achilles heel can be converted into leverage for an end to Iraq.
Or I could be speculating out of my ass.
skeptical wrote on July 25, 2007 1:59 PM:bush has less than 18 months left in office, we need to speed everything up
Crime wrote on July 25, 2007 2:01 PM:The reason why Bush/Cheney have been so successful is they have made their decisions AFTER much deliberation. The Democrats do not. I'm glad Conyers/Leahy are deliberative. Not like the bunch of hotheads here. Yet it seems more and more Republicons are posting here. Josh Marshall you go girl!
SadButTrue wrote on July 25, 2007 2:02 PM:After the August recess!?!
Bull!!
SHIT!!!
The WH and DoJ shredders will be running 24/7 for the next 5 weeks.
or
There will be another false flag 'terrorist threat' justifying Bush declare himself President for Life.
Sieg Heil!!
Too right - the security code for this comment was 'sheep.'
Legalize wrote on July 25, 2007 2:07 PM:I'm hoping that Conyers' thinking here is that during the August recess, the Dem electoral committees can hammer the shit out of the GOPers in their home districts non-stop tv spots. If the Dems play this properly - i.e. no mercy, it is possible that the GOPers will come slinking back to D.C. bloodied and beaten by their consitituents into upholding their sworn duty to protect and maintain the constitution and laws of the United States.
Candyce wrote on July 25, 2007 2:07 PM:CNN just reported it could go to the House as early as next week. Anyone know when the August recess begins?
exdem wrote on July 25, 2007 2:17 PM:Go ahead and vote for Nader if you want, fortunately most Americans have come to realize that the republican party is a threat to our way of life.
Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya
Date: July 25, 2007 12:40 PM
And the dems have done nothing EFFECTIVELY to alter the situation. Hearing, yes, accountability or effective change of course, no.
Anonymous wrote on July 25, 2007 2:24 PM:I've been in favor of turning the screws slowly, but there's no reason at all to wait until after the August recess. Bush will probably use his recess appointment powers to appoint an entirely new Congress.
eric wrote on July 25, 2007 2:30 PM:"What's the makeup of the committee? A 22-17 vote does not sound like a vote along party lines.
Posted by: Crust
Date: July 25, 2007 1:45 PM"
I looked at the committee's website. It looks like there are 23 dems and 17 pugs on the committee. So it looks like one dem didn't vote.
Candyce wrote on July 25, 2007 2:32 PM:Interesting reading for those who want some background on Congressional prerogatives in this article by John Dean. His discussion finishes with this:
"When all is said and done the only way Congress can protect its prerogatives is to undertake its own contempt proceedings. The parliamentary precedents of the House provide such procedures, by which Congress can effectively protect itself. There is no shortage of past instances where the Congress has held such trials. Readers may want to consult, for example, Hinds' Precedents and Canon's Precedents. Unfortunately, however, this machinery has become a bit rusty, for these procedures have not been used since 1934.
Congress Must Avail Itself of Traditional Procedures to Compel Testimony and/or Punish Contempt
Given the clear attitude of conservative presidents, who are doing all within their power to make Congress irrelevant, Congress should turn to these underemployed precedents and put them back to work. The House and Senate Judiciary Committees should take the lead in reviving these procedures, and the Democrats' leadership should announce that they are embracing them.
If they do not, Fred Fielding has it right: Officials are absolutely immune from compelled Congressional testimony. Bush can simply tell Congress to stop sending subpoenas to his appointees. However, if Congress does engage in a little self-help at this crucial juncture, it can be sure that not only Harriet Miers, but also George Bush, will be forced to pay attention to congressional subpoenas - for the bottom line is that Congress will not need the cooperation of the other branches to enable it to conduct proper oversight."
johnnydoughey wrote on July 25, 2007 2:33 PM:If one or more of the Democrat candidates begin to state to the public the exact ways, if elected, he/she will immediately do something concrete to diminish the out of control power of the presidency, I will vote for them. If they don't, I do not believe there will be a democracy to care about with the next couple of decades because both parties have now learned how to circumvent our constitution It does not matter WHICH mobsters are in power!
Candyce wrote on July 25, 2007 2:35 PM:Remember... there WAS NO Gulf of Tonkin incident and that was a democrat. There WERE NO weapons of masss destruction and this is a republican.
The dead soldiers were both democrat and republican and they are STILL DEAD!
Sorry, I didn't realize no hyperlinking here. The link to the Dean article cited above is http://writ.news.findlaw.com/dean/20070713.html
Jake D. wrote on July 25, 2007 2:41 PM:I agree with exdem.
RUN, CINDY, RUN!!!
hot karl rove wrote on July 25, 2007 2:53 PM:OK general question.
Can we go after these criminals after Bush leaves office?
Can Bush give a blanket pardon that wil let these criminals go free after he's booted from office?
Jake D. wrote on July 25, 2007 3:04 PM:Short of a Presidential pardon, all Bush Administration officials (up to and including the President himself) will be subject to indictment, trial and conviction on any alleged federal crime. That might set a precedent for when the next (Democrat) President leaves office though . . .
Anonymous wrote on July 25, 2007 3:23 PM:Jake, you're experiencing delirious hallucinations. Get up, have a cup of coffee and a snack, take a walk. We'll be here when you get back. Oh yeah, when you come back please post spam that isn't patently absurd. Have some self-respect, put some thought into it man! You've jumped the shark.
Jake D. wrote on July 25, 2007 3:27 PM:I've "jumped the shark" by pointing out that Bush is subject to indictment, trial and conviction once he leaves office?! I would have thought that would have had YOU jumping for joy.
JEP wrote on July 25, 2007 3:29 PM:"Can we go after these criminals after Bush leaves office?"
Bush can NOT pardon ANYONE who has not yet been convicted, right? You can't pardon someone for a crime they haven't been found guitly on...
So it just makes sense, use this time to get the truth, a Cheney impeachment would be a good umbrella, then once the next President is in office (likely a Dem, to actually prosecute.
Any convictions prior to Bush's departure is an invitation, no, a virtual guarantee, Bush will abuse his pardon power.
If he is willing to pardon someone who clearly was willing to commit treason for political purposes, he would no doubt be willing to pardon anyone else wemight bring to justice, before Justice is once again impartial.
Jake D. wrote on July 25, 2007 3:36 PM:JEP:
Wrong, as Ford pardoned Nixon with no "conviction" pending. I hope Cheney took advantage of that same opportunity this past Sunday.
zk0sm0 wrote on July 25, 2007 3:46 PM:by putting 'effectively' in CAPS LOCK, your point doesn't hold any more water than it would otherwise.
your impatience, unrealistic expectations, and apparent belief in magical powers does not mean that the dems are not doing exactly what must be done in the timeframe it must be done. your petulant demands for immediate gratification not withstanding.
and they are doing it all in the face of deafening silence from the mainstream media. the actions of the administration and their republican bootlicks in congress are cause for every newspaper editorial board (and even every television news anchor) to be furious. outraged. demanding resignations. insisting on testimony. encouraging impeachment even. but they aren't. and this is what we get. it is the bureaucracy of high stakes constitutional law. and it moves slowly. but it moves assuredly.
but never mind all that, just focus your rage on the dems for not acting with reckless belligerence or being able to instantly move mountains of contempt for the constitution with their puny simple majority.
go ahead and vote for a third party. or just stay home. we'll see what that EFFECTIVELY accomplishes....
JEP wrote on July 25, 2007 3:46 PM:You know, I just realized, these trolls give a site like this the best traffic numbers on the blogs, maybe we should appreciate them more. It is agood thing we let thempost here, because it makes these g=blogs look so much better than their wingnut copycats.
Think about folks, if not for all the angry diatribes the newbies keep throwing at them, there wouldn't be nearly so many people visiting, and the traffic numbers on the leftie blogs would all suck as bad in terms of REAL traffic as the rightwing blogs do.
Drudge isn't the only wingnut who has been accused of inflating site traffic numbers, I read a report the other day that sock-puppetry is so much more common on the right, it is epidemic. Apparently, the wingnuts have encouraged their short list of commentors to each creat multiple complimentary blog personalities, that interact in support of each other, despite the fact it is still just one doofus manning the puppets.
I think the article (still looking for the link) said that, according to IP address stats, more than 75% of the right-wing traffic at one site was as due to multiple-personality individuals commenting on the same threads as more than one person.
They have no other way to get their numbers up.
So as long as they won't let those of us here in the center and on the left, post on their blogs, they will never get the real numbers and real dialogue we know so well over here in the REAL blogosphere, the one that "The People" participate in.
Trolls give us traffic, and while I choose not to engage directly, unless I want to know more personally about the troll, I am beginning to see how they have given the Left wWing blogs so much more of a boost than their own wingnut faves.
Anonymous wrote on July 25, 2007 3:49 PM:"September 13 is the date when the DC US Attorney's appointment expires..."
Not sure it is relevant, but when's the September Patreus event supposed to take place?
Jake D. wrote on July 25, 2007 3:52 PM:JEP:
You are forgetting to deduct all the regulars who have posted they will no longer be reading TPM because of the trolls. Nonetheless, I'd be happy to let left-wing moonbats control Internet blogs while right-wing wackos control talk radio. Seems like a fair trade, huh?
Jake D. wrote on July 25, 2007 3:54 PM:September 15th is the march on D.C.
Anonymous wrote on July 25, 2007 3:58 PM:The right doesn't do well in the blogs because so few of them can read, fewer still can write. Of that small percentage that can read and write, none can think. It's a difficult predicament indeed.
Jake D. wrote on July 25, 2007 4:03 PM:LOL
pointus wrote on July 25, 2007 4:07 PM:Senator Patrick Leahy, (D)-VT:
"My oath, unlike those who have apparently sworn their allegiance to this President, is to the United States Constitution."
Despite my feeling of impatience at the slow pace of these investigations, what little I know about Schumer, Conyers and Leahy leads me to believe that these guys know what they're doing, they're being methodical and patient, building an airtight case. I also suspect that they have a bit more evidence in their possession than they're letting on.
Flip Wilson wrote on July 25, 2007 4:21 PM:Lots of people work in the White House & the DOJ, and it only takes one or two people (who've perhaps decided that they don't want to go down with the ship) to reveal the truth about what really happened.
Posted by: zk0sm0
Date: July 25, 2007 3:46 PM
Right on!
Kevin Good wrote on July 25, 2007 4:42 PM:... and after the August recess if it's passed by the full House it will go to the Alberto Gonzales Justice Department for enforcement.
JNagarya wrote on July 25, 2007 10:35 PM:Yip, Yip, Yip, Yahoo...
Back in town with Thanksgiving approaching Congress Critters will puff up their feathers, strut around the House floor and committee rooms and nothing will happen till after the Christmas break.
Damn it - so just like the Iraqi government, they're going on vacation? If the vote was so important - why the hell did they make this dog and pony show - knowing that they'd wait 5 weeks to take it up. Pathetic - Jesus H Christ - I don't want to hear one damn word about the Iraqi goverment not taking their responsiblities seriously.
Posted by: Leta
Date: July 25, 2007 12:28 PM
It isn't all that complicated. Pay attention:
During the recess, Congress members tend to travel thorughout their district (Representatives)/state (Senators) and meet with their constituents. Doubtless many of the Republicans who voted against the contempt citation will return to Congress with their ears burned off -- thus will be more amendable to supporting the contempt citation.
There are, in short, more considerations than only the legal.
JNagarya wrote on July 25, 2007 10:50 PM:Go ahead and vote for Nader if you want, fortunately most Americans have come to realize that the republican party is a threat to our way of life.
Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya
Date: July 25, 2007 12:40 PM
And the dems have done nothing EFFECTIVELY to alter the situation. Hearing, yes, accountability or effective change of course, no.
Posted by: exdem
Date: July 25, 2007 2:17 PM
After 6-plus years of Republican control, the Democrats have been in nominal control of Congress for about 6 months. And you expect it all to be turned around in 6 months!?
Democratic due process of law takes time. That's reality. You hate the way Republicans behave; yet you demand that Democrats behave like Republicans. Make up your mind.
And while you're at it, whiner, read up on the history of third party national "successes" which did other than drain votes away from one party to the benefit of the other.
RBS wrote on July 26, 2007 5:36 AM:I've posted this on another thread, but it applies to almost any given TPM Comments section at any given time:
Jake D's unrelenting attempts at hijacking the discussion are, unfortunately, successful--the thread always ends up being about him and his inane diversions (which is exactly what he wants) rather than about the subject matter at issue--and I, for one (or two or three), am ready to forego TPM's comments entirely rather than having to slog through such massive amounts of troll shit.
Legitimate expressions of "other" viewpoints are fine, but when Jake's "expressions" disproportionately and egregiously hog the bandwidth, with the intent to disrupt the actual thread of the conversation and prevent real discussion of the issues, there's no reason for TPM to put up with it (the First Amendment only restricts the government from censoring expression, Jake) and legitimate reasons not to put up with it (losing readership).
Enough is enough.
If there's a TPM moderator, please get rid of this guy; he adds nothing and only disrupts the true flow of the commentary. Too many people "bite" and feed this guy, which is understandable, but the tipping point has been reached.
Could others who feel the same way pleeeeeeeeeeeeeease let TPM know how you feel?
Thanks.
(We now resume our regularly hijacked programming . . . )
RBS
Gus wrote on July 26, 2007 5:46 AM:A constitutional law professor argues that indeed it is futile to get DOJ to enforce a contempt citation, but that historically has only been a short cut used by congress to avoid taking floor time to try its own contempt citations.
They have always had the right to enforce their own citations by having the Sergeant of Arms arrest the individual and imprison them until they agree to testify. Basically civil contempt, not criminal. The individual has the keys to his own jail. He can get out at any time by purging his own contempt by testifying.
It is not a criminal process, so there is no DOJ and no opportunity for Bush to frustrate it by simple pardons.
Start jailing them.
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