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Spencer's Mom wrote on June 2, 2007 11:31 AM:

When "thuggery" becomes the accepted form of government, the trickle-down theory applies. Should we ever again live a country ruled by laws rather than political expediency, we may again return to the country of our founding fathers.

Al Gore '08

PEACE

Rick B wrote on June 2, 2007 11:53 AM:

Which gang does Michael McGee belong to? Is he a Republican or does he belong to a local gang?

Either way, such people should not be on the outside of bars. Ask the mother of his child.

John Krogman wrote on June 2, 2007 12:08 PM:

This Michael McGee is from a long line of community activists that Repubs and Dem thugs would call "trouble-makers."

I worked with Michael's gramma, Geneva McGee, in the late 70s and early 80s. From what I know, the McGees are a fine family that works to promote the interests of the African-American community.

The Milwaukee establishment hates the McGees.

It's just that simple.

Wasn't the Milwaukee USDA involved in the US Attorney scandal? Is this just one more attempt by the BUSHTHUGS to punish local minority activists?

Shame is the word for it.

Sprinkles wrote on June 2, 2007 12:13 PM:

http://www.myleftnutmeg.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=7088

CT Republican senator makes bad -

John Krogman wrote on June 2, 2007 12:13 PM:

It seems to me that TPMMuck has made the same mistake that our MSM makes in its stories on Bush's latest foolishness: print the press release and call it news.

It is disappointing that TPMMuck is so eager to print without any apparent investigation stories made up by white authorities that target minority activists.

Please look into this matter. I know that the Milwaukee estabishment has a history of attacking the McGee family.

Show some more polish in your journalism, please!

John Krogman wrote on June 2, 2007 12:22 PM:

Why does TPMMuck make a bigger thing of the arrest of Alderman McGee and not mention the arrest of the Connecticutt Senator, linked to in the fourth post here?

McGee is black, but the other is not.

Just wondering....

Isn't it strange that news about minority arrests travels further and faster than news about white arrests?

By the way, I'm white, not that that should make a difference but it does to our media and our websites because they are embedded in the dominant culture of the US.

And you can be certain that minorities are more likely to agree with my argument here, while many of my white brethren still refuse to, well, get it.

Sprinkles wrote on June 2, 2007 12:22 PM:

http://www.myleftnutmeg.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=7088

CT Republican senator makes bad -

Heraldblog wrote on June 2, 2007 12:24 PM:

I've lived in Milwaukee for 22 years, and Mr. Krogman is cherry picking his facts. McGee's dad, Michael McGee, Sr., was an alderman in the late 1980s when he promised to create widespread civil unrest unless the city invested $100 million in the inner city. He hinted at disrupting the city's annual circus parade, and Milwaukee Bucks games. Fortunately, Mayor Norquist stood firm and McGee, Sr. backed off. He lost his seat the following year when the city redistricted, and included Sherman Park in McGee's ward, with its large population of middle class, educated black voters. Democratic thugs? I think not.

McGee junior was the subject of a recall drive last year, but he survived a special election, gathering 60% of the vote on a six person ballot, but his ward doesn't include Sherman Park. If junior wants to help the African American community, we should jump off the Hoan Bridge, or moved to Fallujah.

noblejoanie wrote on June 2, 2007 12:33 PM:

McGee is not a nice man. But does anyone else wondering why the FBI was listening in on his phone conversations?

noblejoanie wrote on June 2, 2007 12:34 PM:

McGee is not a nice man. But does anyone else wonder why the FBI was listening in on his phone conversations?

RandyR wrote on June 2, 2007 1:04 PM:

I agree that the language is compelling in its color but it is still speach. The overall big question is why is the FBI listening to elected officials? It sure looks like the enforcement arm of the Department of Justice is doing the administration's political will.

Are we now prosecuting for gratuitus boasting, is their evidence of an effort to commit a crime, or is the administration just cruising for Democrats?

Security Code: male as in male bullshit jawjacking

Fnor wrote on June 2, 2007 1:36 PM:

Randy:

That's a rather unwarranted assumption. It's pretty common for the FBI when dealing with corruption or conspiracy to, when given a claim by someone involved that checks out, get a wire. Heck, if the person on the other side agrees to it, there is no need for the court order (since he is essentially acting as a direct informant). With someone who has a history of violent threats and a credible claim, it's hard to imagine a judge wouldn't approve a tap if credible claims of a murder conspiracy came up.

anne wrote on June 2, 2007 1:54 PM:

Does McGee have a history of carrying out the violent threats? NO. People say all kinds of things. I remember the McGee family...they have been harassed by the Milwaukee Police forever.

Phil Ball wrote on June 2, 2007 2:02 PM:

Whatever the merits of the case against Milwaukee Ald. Mcgee, it is worth noting that our old friend United States Attorney Steven Biskupic is leading the prosecution.
Also noteworthy is Biskupic's prosecution and jailing of Wisconsin vet Keith Roberts while he appeals a fraud conviction. His crime; he was awarded VA authorized retroactive compensation for his VA diagnosed PTSD at a time when Bush/Rove needed the money for fresh cannon fodder for the war in Iraq.

Fnor wrote on June 2, 2007 2:02 PM:

Ah, so you can only conspire to commit a murder if you've done so in the past? In the case of the wife, it also appears that the court had to step in to prevent him from going through. Restraining orders do not grow on trees.

Phil Ball wrote on June 2, 2007 2:06 PM:

Sorry-here's the link for the Wisconsin Public Radio story on Keith Roberts:
http://clipcast.wpr.org:8080/ramgen/wpr/news/news070510gh.rm

ewastud wrote on June 2, 2007 4:58 PM:

Heraldblog's post unintentionally seems to support John Krogman's comments more than it repudiates them. I have personally no opinion on the matter, having left that part of the country many years ago. I don't have any other source for facts in this case.

It reminds me of the unwarranted smears that Cynthia McKinney has suffered, at this TPM blog, too, as a matter of fact. If JMM wants to be credible he had better be even-handed and objective or the blogosphere will vote with their mouse.

John Krogman wrote on June 2, 2007 5:05 PM:

Haroldblog is determined to smear an African-American activist. There has been no trial and MIchael McGee deserves the presumption of innocence, something that Haroldblog does not seem to understand.

Who cares if white people think McGee is not a "nice man." ?

I knew Norquist also. I wouldn't expect him to like the McGees either.

I also remember that Mayor Norquist left office under an ethical cloud and moved to Chicago. The McGees have stayed in Milwaukee. I've heard Norquist disparage others who have left Wisconsin.

Isn't it interesting that the white Democratic thugs, er, establishment rigged precinct boundaries so that Michael Senior got districted out of his Aldermanic seat? Coincidence? Haa.

And the black community has now elected and re-elected Michael Junior? Why does this community not deserve the respect of folks like Haroldblog?

Why? Did Haroldblog tell the full story about Norquist?

Who's dirtier? We've got to go more than skin deep here.

MOre FBI terror tactics goin down?

Again, TPMMuck should look deeper into this story. It's still the lead on Sat. aft.

If a white man was targetted like McGee, do you think it would receive top play all day?

Get real.

John Krogman wrote on June 2, 2007 5:17 PM:

Thank you for the support, ewastud. Nicely put.

I suppose I feel I need to be crude in order to get the point through to thicker skulls.

And I admit that I don't know enough to make an informed judgment. Milwaukee recently got a new DA and I wouldn't be surprised if the DA is trying to show his stuff. When is his next election?

The charges against McGee are unproven allegations at this time.

It would not be unprecedented if there is some underlying racism involved, on the part of local and FBI authorities. It is a clear fact that Milwaukee is one of the most geographically segregated cities in the US, although I'm not up to date on its rank (these things don't change fast). Many of my black friends felt that Milwaukee was a pretty racist town. when I lived from 1978 to 1985. It was quite segregated and there are a lot of white folks who do their part.

I hope for the McGee family that these charges are shown to be unfounded. I happen to have an Afri/Native/Anglo-American son (order unknown) who went through a trial and was acquitted of most charges. Racism exists throughout America.

We cannot forget that. Ever. My son sure can't.

John Krogman wrote on June 2, 2007 5:22 PM:

Does McGee have a history of carrying out the violent threats? NO. People say all kinds of things. I remember the McGee family...they have been harassed by the Milwaukee Police forever.
Posted by: anne
Date: June 2, 2007 01:54 PM

********

Well said. Some things don't change very fast.

Anonymous wrote on June 2, 2007 5:23 PM:

Does McGee have a history of carrying out the violent threats? NO. People say all kinds of things. I remember the McGee family...they have been harassed by the Milwaukee Police forever.

Posted by: anne

Do most families have a history of carrying out violent threats? Do we even need to ask? No. Sounds as though this guy has a history. Even if he doesn't "carry them out", he voices them. Frankly, a directly voiced threat is pretty damned scary. Would you want one directed at you?

Anonymous wrote on June 2, 2007 5:24 PM:

Does McGee have a history of carrying out the violent threats? NO. People say all kinds of things. I remember the McGee family...they have been harassed by the Milwaukee Police forever.

Posted by: anne

Do most families have a history of carrying out violent threats? Do we even need to ask? No. Sounds as though this guy has a history. Even if he doesn't "carry them out", he voices them. Frankly, a directly voiced threat is pretty damned scary. Would you want one directed at you?

John Krogman wrote on June 2, 2007 6:06 PM:

The above double posts, both anonymous, could be taken as threats in some sense. White people complaining about people of different skins, that's pretty old, as old as history or older.

My current neighbors told me that they thought the racist covenants, dating back to the 1940s. that banned blacks and Asians from the neighborhood, ought to be enforced. And these racists have been picking on us ever since.

Minorities get threats thrown at them regularly.

How do you think that makes them feel? How does that make you feel, Anonymous?

Get it yet?

John Krogman wrote on June 2, 2007 6:09 PM:

Anonymous posters should be banned until they have the courage to identify themselves.

Matt wrote on June 2, 2007 6:16 PM:

Some facts to back this up a little. Sadly for us dems, this is a pretty ugly situation. Except of course McGee is in a "nonpartisan" office so we don't have to claim him.

And we never will. McGee is kind of smart, kind of committed to his constituents, which is to his great credit. However, he says stupid stuff ALL THE TIME. And stupid is being polite. He has the anti-gay, anti-white bullshit reputation for sadly appropriate reasons.

Anyway, he got in trouble a while back for the girlfriend thing a while back (plus possible social security fraud-- he's got a couple identities and his name may or may not be Michael Jackson). The wingnuts love him because he keeps on giving. But then they tried to recall him. And his district wasn't into whitey telling them what to do, so he won his recall election in a landslide.

Unfortunately, it became apparent he was corrupt (allegedly) and was making businesses donate to his campaign in order to get or keep liquor licenses. Obviously, somebody snitched (he's a
stop snitching guy, btw) and the feds started investigating him. The state did too. I think it was a joint investigation. They got a wiretap.

Then a friend of his got burglarized and McGee and his friend knew who did it. So they talked about killing the guy, but apparently decided (or didn't) that instead they would pay 1000 to peel his cap back. I do know what that means btw, and you don't want that happening to anyone.

This is speculation now, but since there was a threat of violence the authorities had to do something. They couldn't just listen to his phone calls anymore, if somebody was going to get killed or hurt. Imagine the outrage if they didn't do something and the guy got hurt-- as they had info he would.

So the corruption investigation has to stop and they go with the info they have (snitches, bribes to undercover officers etc.) And so he gets charged and some info gets out (like he paid people five bucks each to vote for him in that recall election which he won in a landslide anyway. Seems to have a little Nixon in him).

So he's done, and no one should cry for him. It is sad for the black community, for other politicians (black and white), for Milwaukee as a whole (we're Chicago now) and yes, for Democrats. He's gonna get kicked around A LOT (he has been the bogeyman for years) and it may seem unfair. Except its not. They investigated him because they thought he was crooked, and it turned out he really was. One of our guys was an asshole. Sucks, but its true. Except, again, he's not a Democrat. Just another asshole.

Steve5117 wrote on June 2, 2007 6:40 PM:

Here's a link to a Milwaukee Journal Sentinal article about the younger Michael.

John Krogman wrote on June 2, 2007 7:31 PM:

Follow Steve's link and navigate to find two columns about Michael McGee. Both columnists are quite anglo, by the way.

Please remember that Steve Biskupic, the US Attorney who is pursuing (hunting? stalking? All correct) McGee, was shot down by the US Appeals Court in that district for convicting someone on NO EVIDENCE. The Appeals Court, in a highly unusual action, immediately threw out the conviction after hearing the appeal. Please note that a Milwaukee jury was willing to convict Biskupic on NO EVIDENCE.

Milwaukee justice is clearly deeply flawed. Whether it is also flawed in the case of Michael McGee remains to be seen.

Meanwhile, he's presumed innocent, except for those many who find delight in the charges brought against McGee by a misguided (on the record) US Attorney (sniffing Karl Rove, here Rove, errrr) and possibly and understandably hostile City officials.

But it does sound like McGee does have a way of getting into trouble. Clearly he is guilty of not being "nice" and annoying Milwaukee officials and white newspaper columnists.

John Krogman wrote on June 2, 2007 7:42 PM:

The wingnuts always go for the weakest part.

Matt would have us dismiss McGee.

Perhaps this is what should happen, but I object to Matt jumping the gun.

If all the politicians who buy votes go to jail -- I'm not saying ALL should not -- then we'd save a lot of money in printing election ballots. McGee may have been stupid enough to get caught, but maybe not.

I really question the RUSH to judgment by the Milwaukee-Journal Sentinel and some who may have their own agendas. And I question the need that some posters have to pledge their allegiance to a verdict that has not yet been given. This could be a huge setup.

Remember, US Attorney Biskupic got laughed out of the Appeals Court with his last political case that they heard. He is not a credible source, when it comes to politically charged cases. That record is real, unlike a lot of what Matt alleges to be true.

It's quite possible that the largely white establishment of Milwaukee has unfairly decided that they are going to give Michael McGee all of its barrels (and we're not talking about beer, here). McGee is in deep doodoo, for sure.

This could be very interesting.

Tom Roland wrote on June 2, 2007 8:24 PM:

Gee, everyone has an opinion about who's innocent or guilty & who's got what motives based on ALMOST NOTHING in the way of facts. If you're gonna speculate, please label it speculation. That's what most of these hobby-horse riding posts are.

BTW, probably not your fault, since TV and defense attorneys spin it or get it wrong most of the time, but the "presumption of innocence" applies ONLY to the jury or judge who is asked to make the decision of GUILT or INNOCENCE. It does not apply to ANYTHING ELSE, and there is absolutely nothing wrong--ethically or legally--in coming to individual conclusions or arguing guilt or innoence in public without applying that presumption. On issues of bail, legally there is A PRESUMPTION OF GUILT. Yeah, really!! And there is absolutely nothing wrong in principal with suspending officials or employees etc from their duties pending trial when they are ACCUSED OF a crime.

As to Mr McGee, I have insufficient facts to even have much of an opinion. I'll follow the story with interest.

Tom Roland

Poncho & Lefty wrote on June 2, 2007 10:18 PM:

We don't know what the fact are yet because it's still sealed by the judge.

Whatever McGee's faults he is entitled to fair prosecution. Now that is something the US District Attorney has a questionable record with.

BG,
Milwaukee,WI

John Krogman wrote on June 2, 2007 10:19 PM:

Roland, I agree that we have no basis for an opinion.

My main point has been exactly that.

Whenever a gang of white guys goes for the obnoxious black guy -- and Michael McGee has done a lot to be annoying, for sure -- we have ample precedent and reason to be particularly suspicious.

When Michael McGee Senior got knocked out of his Alderman seat because of whitey's gerrymandering, Michael McGee Junior took notice.

Who is taking notice at the knocking around that Junior is taking? The mayor and city council are not winning friends in the black community in Milwaukee.

This is not over by any means. I hope that McGee is largely innocent.

Another point: the leaking from the US Attorney's office and from Milwaukee government office seems to be huuuge. McGee may already have enough to gain a change of venue. I wonder if Biskupic should duck out of the case, given his outrageous misconduct in a recent case that had strong political aspects.

McGee should shut his mouth and hire the best attorney in the city. If he's guilty, he should start dealing now.

And for those who want to RUSH to judgment, I say hold off. If McGee is guilty, we don't want to mess up the judicial process with what will seem to many as a lynching party. Racism is everywhere in the US. Let's be honest, completely honest about this case.

thefalcon7 wrote on June 2, 2007 10:19 PM:

Just FYI for people who are new to the site:

News entries are put, in a *time-of-posting queue*.

The newest entries are at the top of the TPMMuckraker page, and the oldest at the bottom.

The entries are time *stamped*.

John Krogman wrote on June 2, 2007 10:31 PM:

I suppose thefalcon7's message is that there is not another story so the Michael McGee smear job remains at the top.

I thought muck was supposed to sink to the bottom.

John Krogman wrote on June 2, 2007 10:42 PM:

BG, you maybe are too kind when you say that the US Attorney's record is "questionable."

The Appeals Court took a more severe view, and there opinion is the one that counts. They threw out a case where the US Attorney obtained a conviction BASED ON NO EVIDENCE (that is what the Appeals Court found) and there action was taken immediately after hearing the appeal. The US Attorney apparently duped a jury into convicting someone in a case that had strong political underpinnings.

Now we have the same US Attorney taking action against an elected official who is extremely unpopular with the white majority.

The US Attorney should recuse himself, given his outrageous misconduct in a recent case that also had clear political aspects to it.

Is Biskupic trying to dig himself out of the US Attorney scandal, which is after all a much more important story AND one that site visitors to TPMMuck expect to hear more about?

What about Biskupic, TPMMuck? Isn't he a more appropriate target for muckraking than McGee? Why focus on McGee and not Biskupic?

Thank you for letting me have my say.

Nancy Irving wrote on June 2, 2007 11:55 PM:

Not sure you (or are you quoting the lawyer?) understand the meaning of the term "street cred."

The rap against the FBI is that they don't get Ebonics--they took literally what (McGee claims) was meant only figuratively.

That is, they may be too credulous--not that they lack credibility (cred).

this guy wrote on June 3, 2007 7:04 AM:

wow, where the hell did all the milwaukee come from? and who knew some two bit politician could generate so much heat on a national blog!

this guy wrote on June 3, 2007 7:04 AM:

wow, where the hell did all the milwaukeeans come from? and who knew some two bit politician could generate so much heat on a national blog!

Cycldoc wrote on June 3, 2007 9:13 AM:

This sounds like something our of Phillip Dick's Minority Report. Arresting people before crimes based on the government's interpretation of intent. This seems dangerous.

I know nothing of Milwaukee or of the man involved but this seems an amazing abuse of power.

J. P. wrote on June 3, 2007 10:11 AM:

I realize that in the current politicized environment regarding defendants like McGee, it's easy to see a conspiracy under every rock, but some of you are paiting McGee as a political martyr, and living in Milwaukee, I can tell you that's an absurd notion.

I compare the McGee family to the Street family in Philadelphia. No one likes them and they are obviously crooked, but get enough black voters to see you as a martyr and you can become Mayor. Nevermind that they do litlle for their own neighborhoods, they still have a steady stream of bullshit they can peddle that enough people accept.

Sometimes, an indictment is just an indictment.

Todd wrote on June 3, 2007 10:26 AM:

Are you people all serious? This blog spends 99.999% of its time reporting on corrupt old white men - and you get you panties this twisted when they run a post about a black man? Last time Marshall posted about a corrupt black politician was probably when Jefferson was making popsicles out of $100 bills. Does this represent some kind of pattern of bigotry?

Mrs Panstreppon wrote on June 3, 2007 10:31 AM:

Here in NY, the State Liquor Authority hands out licenses to sell liquor. The SLA does a background check etc.

Allowing an alderman to hand out liquor licenses on his own would be like giving him a license to steal. Can someone from Milwaukee verify that McGee did indeed have a say in who got liquor licenses?

rea wrote on June 3, 2007 11:24 AM:

I propose to kick some Republican butt in the Fall of 2008; I hope saying that doesn't get me arrested for planning a battery . . .

Mrs Panstreppon wrote on June 3, 2007 12:04 PM:

OK, I read the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel story and McGee was reportedly only helping with the liquor licenses, not issuing them.

Did McGee's supporters here notice that the defense is arguing to keep the charging documents sealed? So much for a weak case.

John Krogman wrote on June 3, 2007 12:12 PM:

The leaks from Federal and Milwaukee authorities are very unusual.

It looks like they have axes to grind for various reasons.

The Appeals Court laughed US Attorney Biskupic out of court.

Maybe they were right!

Sounds like a high-tech lynching party to me, said a black Supreme Court Justice 15 or so years ago.

Buck wrote on June 3, 2007 12:58 PM:

I'm wondering if this isn't related to the DeLuca arrest, which seems remarkably similar.

Anyone know how long these cases have been floating?

Anonymous wrote on June 3, 2007 1:05 PM:

There's a good column in today's Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel about why a lot of folks, esp in the black community in Milwaukee are suspicious about the indictments, and about how McGee has been treated.

That doesn't mean McGee isn't guilty - he might be. But there are valid reasons why a lot of people don't trust the DA or the US Atty. Keep in mind that Milwaukee is one of the most segregated cities in the US - and Wisconsin has the largest black/white disparity in incarceration rates in the country (something like 17 to 1).

It's a much more fair read than what Steve5177 posted (Patrick McIlheran is a right-wing shill) or, frankly, than Will's article above)

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=613585
Two versions of McGee's story divide Milwaukee

". . .
Buy a link here

After all, there have always been two views of McGee: the up-from-the-streets activist fighting the system and the out-of-control loudmouth tainting city politics with his antics and antagonism.

And there already are two verdicts, not the legal kind, but ones just as binding.

McGee is guilty.

No, McGee was set up.

He did himself in.

No, he was targeted because he was a threat, because he made trouble, because he is black.

So the dialogue went last week, over the airwaves, on the streets and in the offices. . . ."

John Krogman wrote on June 3, 2007 1:32 PM:

Posted by:
Date: June 3, 2007 01:05 PM

" " said it brilliantly and offers what I feel is appropriate balance to this developing story, unlike TPMMuck. Too bad " " couldn't leave a name or handle.

This may be very interesting. The Milwaukee rags (I used to work for them before the Sentinal disappeared) have been running lots of anti-McGee stuff and it's good they are finally running a balanced piece.

Milwaukee is very segregated and substantial portions of the black and white communities are very alienated from each other, though for very different reasons.

Thanks again, " ".

Steve5117 wrote on June 3, 2007 3:29 PM:

John Krogman I've been following your posts here and you sound defensive about the McGees.
Earlier I posted a link to an article I found from a Google search, in an effort to give TPM readers a another point of reference.

In looking through your posts I do not see any links to anything about McGee. Having links that TPM readers can follow might help support your point of view and lead to others helping your cause. Then again, with the research skills of some of the posters here, it could lead to information that goes against McGee.

Keep us posted on developments in the case.

Steve5117 wrote on June 3, 2007 3:43 PM:

In rereading what I just posted I want to make a clarification:

I think there are people here with excelent research skills who can access resourses I can not. The results of this research will be factual and could impact the McGees either good or bad.

this guy wrote on June 3, 2007 5:05 PM:

yo krogman - i think after the fifth or sixth time you made the same several points everyone got it. at a certain point it just becomes inflammatory and it drags the conversation into a circle of flame throwing. everyone gets that you think he's being railroaded and that the USA is corrupt or whatever.

Ducky wrote on June 3, 2007 10:52 PM:

It has been my experience that those who scream racism the loudest are the true racists. They are pointing the finger so everyone looks the other way and doesn't examine their actions. Instead of focusing on McGee "color" why don't we look at the man AND his actions.

KYJurisDoctor wrote on June 4, 2007 3:38 AM:

Who was it that said something about power? Hmmm, this is just one example of that and when hoodlums get voted into office. But let's wait for ALL the facts to come out before we REALLY jump into conclusions though.

http:OsiSpeaks.com or http://OsiSpeaks.org

Anon wrote on June 4, 2007 9:26 AM:

So, judging from this comment thread he's a republican?? I've been searching and searching online and cannot find the fundamental fact of the party that he belongs to, and this article doesn't cite it. Doesn't that belong in any article, no matter how short, about a politician?

Anon wrote on June 4, 2007 9:28 AM:

So, judging from this comment thread he's a republican?? I've been searching and searching online and cannot find the fundamental fact of the party that he belongs to, and this article doesn't cite it. Doesn't that belong in any article, no matter how short, about a politician?

Heraldblog wrote on June 4, 2007 10:51 AM:

City council seat are non-partisan, so party affiliation is not relevant to the criminal charges filed against McGee. I'm guessing that the majority of his supporters vote for Democrats, in the same proportion as African Americans in the rest of the country.

Kudos to Ducky for saying what needs to be said: This is not about McGee's race. Voter embarrassment over McGee cuts across black/white lines. The lines are drawn along education and social status. As I said earlier, middle class blacks in Sherman Park tossed McGee, Sr. out of office 15 years ago.

John Krogman wrote on June 4, 2007 6:05 PM:

Ducky--

Indeed, the many white people who love to hate black people should but will not take your advice.

John Krogman wrote on June 4, 2007 6:11 PM:

Hmmm, white people getting mad because black people think white people make too much about race, not understanding that black people have a valid point.

I never have been able to understand that logic.

The research that shows that black and other minorities get harsher treatment in court for the same offenses must also anger white people who don't want to think about racism in the US.

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