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Coburn: You Should Resign

By Paul Kiel - April 19, 2007, 3:06PM

During his questioning, Sen. Tom Coburn (R-OK) told Alberto Gonzales that he should resign.

There "has to be consequences" for the management and leadership failure under Gonzales' watch. It's "generous to say that there were misstatements" by Gonzales and others, Coburn said. "I believe that you ought to suffer the consequences," he said, adding that Gonzales ought to be judged by the same standards with which he judged the U.S. attorneys.

"The best way to put this behind us is your resignation."

Comments (272)

Strangely Enough wrote on April 19, 2007 3:10 PM:

code: past

Res ipsa loquitor...

The Zero Boss wrote on April 19, 2007 3:11 PM:

Code: fork (as in "stick a fork in Gonzales, he's DONE")

Superba wrote on April 19, 2007 3:12 PM:

Gonzales' resignation will magically absolve Rove of any responsibility, right?

The universe will be brought back into karmic balance, the scales of Justice right themselves, etc.

This doesn't stop at the DOJ. Does anyone care about the White House and RNC's involvement in this?

Ephus wrote on April 19, 2007 3:14 PM:

When a GOP appointee loses Specter, he might be done. When he loses Grassley and Graham, he should be done. When he loses Coburn, he is DONE.

Expect the resignation tomorrow night at 5:00 p.m.

Anonymous wrote on April 19, 2007 3:14 PM:

This means the administration is ready to sacrifice Gonzales to save Rove. It’s a calculated decision that they didn’t want to make, but they do have their priorities.

If Gonzales leaves the damage will be done, the AG’s have been fired and replaced with loyal Bushies.

Node of Evil wrote on April 19, 2007 3:16 PM:

Where's Hatch? Did he question Gonzales earlier? I wonder where Kyl's going with his questioning. Ah, looks like he's going to play Hatch's role. The only "friendly" questioner so far (that I've heard). Blah blah blah... Whatever. He's using this for political showboating.

seedyrum wrote on April 19, 2007 3:17 PM:

Gonzales resignation doesnt absolve Rove. As Gonzales testimony illustrate he doesnt have FULL knowledge of the situation or grasp of the situation, he was relying on others. Who are those others. Also Gonzales testimony illustrated that he is incompetent but he is kept in place by Bush and directed by Bush. So Bush and Rove told Gonzales what to do.

Anonymous wrote on April 19, 2007 3:17 PM:

I think the Repubs want him to go, so they can cover up what Karl Rove was doing in this. AND the entire partisan nightmare throughout USDOJ. really important that Judiciary have a separate hearing - NOT just on the "8 US Attorneys" but on the partisan politicization of Justice.

Superba wrote on April 19, 2007 3:18 PM:

Does anyone know if anyone is pursuing the GWB43.org emails? Leahy's staffers? Anyone? Or did that fall off the radar?

tbhull wrote on April 19, 2007 3:19 PM:

Is Kyl going to ask about the cactus protection act? I sure hopes so.

Superba wrote on April 19, 2007 3:23 PM:

Also Gonzales testimony illustrated that he is incompetent but he is kept in place by Bush and directed by Bush. So Bush and Rove told Gonzales what to do.

Obviously.

But I'm concerned that DC Cocktail Circuit chumps in the David Broder mold will decide that once Gonzales resigns, it's over. And asking questions about Rove, et al. will be labelled "shrill" and "partisan."

Sholom wrote on April 19, 2007 3:24 PM:

Having AGAG resign leads to two possibilities:

1. It could take pressure off of the WH, the meme being "now the Dems have a big scalp, they'll be somewhat satisfied"

or, more likely, I think

2. It will create even more momentum for Congress to bear down on the WH, the emails, and so forth.

(Code: "loss" -- too easy)

seedyrum wrote on April 19, 2007 3:25 PM:

Why does Gonzales begin his response with " As I recall"?

in case his memory is faulty???

Dawn wrote on April 19, 2007 3:26 PM:

Yup, as the old Laker's announcer Chick Hearn would say, this game is in the fridge and the butter and eggs are cooling.

besides the details of the dishonesty The Muck does such a great job of exposing, my overall impressions as I have been listening to this all day are these:
1.To understate it: Gonzo is no mental giant.
2. I love the new Dem senators Cardin and Whitehouse.
3. As always I give my everlasting thanks to c-spanradio.org

Mark Richards wrote on April 19, 2007 3:30 PM:

I'm no criminal justice professional although I did serve for a few years as a small town cop. Therefore, in a real world sort of way, I know a scum bag when I see one.

In my experience, brushing up against all manner of criminals and the insane, I NEVER met a single subject who was lying as clearly as this one is. You can do all the prep work you want but in the end if you're a criminal it shows: this one has a beacon on his head and it's almost painful to watch it go on.

Why the Senators, right now, don't demand his head on a platter is beyond comprehension. At a minimum the circus should be cut short with an offer: resign now, here at the table, or face impeachment and jail.

If I had ever met anyone like Gonzales on the street I'd have the cuffs on them before they finished their first blink.

Putting aside all the lying and word-twisting (he's clearly using a confuse and obfuscate technique which is being effectively countered by all the questioners) is THIS the sort of manager that this nation wants at the head of its federal law enforcement? Besides being a liar he's clearly unfit for the job. On top of the corruption already rife within the system and the political cronyism and hackery, adding this imbisile into the mix really makes a mess.

Scary thought: who is next in line from the current mal-administrations' personnel Pez dispenser?

Dawn wrote on April 19, 2007 3:31 PM:

To answer a question above, Hatch was up this morning. He threw as many lifelines as he could in 5 minutes.

jim wrote on April 19, 2007 3:45 PM:

could you post video of coburn plese?

az5762 wrote on April 19, 2007 3:50 PM:

SING-IT SISTER !!!
You KNOW it's bad when Coburn is speaking the truth.

Anthony wrote on April 19, 2007 3:54 PM:

"Why does Gonzales begin his response with " As I recall"?"

Because he can't say "the facts are" (well he could, but then he would have to resign and take the whole cesspool of this Administration with it) - his "recollections" can be proved wrong, but then he can say he just "recalled" this or that differently.

He is not going anywhere - he is the firewall between this and Rove. Why do you think the WH is sticking by him? He doesn't really know the answers to these questions because I really think he doesn't know a lot about this - it was run by Rove and Miers, et al and he was just in the job as AG and told to go along.

jc chasezbian wrote on April 19, 2007 3:57 PM:

Coburn was cogent, but Sheldon Whitehouse, my, i have a new favorite.

Grassley was actually cogent and insistent, schumer has an image problem, Hatch actually makes the AG look bad with his questions, and Durbin has a foot in mouth problem.

WHitehouse made the AG look like an unprepared college freshman who didnt do the reading.

smoore wrote on April 19, 2007 3:58 PM:

Excellent code word. FEAR. As in what the WH is experiencing right now. Tossing AG overboard will lighten the load, but it won't keep the ship from sinking. They can't bail the water out fast enough. Anyone else remember the last days of Nixon, the fear that all of those characters were experiencing?
Smoore

smoore wrote on April 19, 2007 4:03 PM:

Just looked at the Coburn video. And the code word is SCREW (really), as in Colburn just gave AG the screw. He's doner than a Thanksgiving Turkey baked at 500 degrees for 3 days. Stick a fork in him, yep he's done. NEXT!!
sm

Condor wrote on April 19, 2007 4:05 PM:

The only possible reason I can see why Gonzo wasn't quietly taken out back and put out of his misery during the lunch break is that the White House is TERRIFIED of having to nominate someone to replace him. If they made those confirmation hearings pay-per-view they could cover a month's worth of Iraq War funding with the proceeds.

This really is a nightmare for Bush and Rove. The next AG -and there WILL BE a new AG- will NOT get the pass Gonzo got at his confirmation hearings. And a loyal Bushie won't be the next AG.

DBH wrote on April 19, 2007 4:06 PM:

Hollow victory if all we get is Gonzo, in fact, I think this testimony is designed to make him look incompetent in such a way that firing him for poor performance will make a lot of sense to people. Meanwhile, the real 'crime' goes unaddressed, because who's neck do you choke next? W will lose some cred because ha backed his boy, but that can play both ways. In the end, the WH just wanted Gonzo to go thru this without implicating anyone else, it is clear he is not allowed to tell the truth...

Last Dem In Norman wrote on April 19, 2007 4:08 PM:

Coburn is an idiot. I'm sad to say he is the second worst of our two Senators.

However, even a blind chicken gets a piece of grain every once in a while.

Sally wrote on April 19, 2007 4:09 PM:

If he doesn't resign, is the next step impeachment proceedings?

I can see Karl liking the idea of long, drawn out impeachment hearings. Keeps some of the attention away from Iraq and keeps the focus on the AG and not on Karl.

Karl is known for throwing allies as well as enemies to the dogs as pointed out by Wayne Slater (co-author of Bush's Brain) on Countdown in March:

SLATER: Yes, it certainly looks like it. And frankly, this fits a pattern, a long pattern—and I can talk about it some other time—here in Texas. People who‘ve crossed paths with Karl, both his enemies and his political allies have found themselves out of a job, out of work, in trouble.

Most recently, look at the case of Scott McClellan. Karl lied to Scott, told him that he had nothing to do with the Valerie Plame-CIA leak issue. In fact, he had everything to do with it. And Scott McClellan was damaged, and he was out of office. Libby was dealing with the same way, and they both Karl and Libby were fully marching I the same direction. When it was all said and done, Libby‘s gone, Karl‘s still in office.

Looks like the same thing‘s going to happen here.

code: expert

Redshift wrote on April 19, 2007 4:10 PM:

"Why does Gonzales begin his response with " As I recall"?"

Because you can only be guilty of perjury for making false statements, not for remembering wrong.

jc chasezbian wrote on April 19, 2007 4:11 PM:

I see the whitehouse coming out with this:

(bush) i am disappointed in how this was handled. and I am disappointed in certain senators making a politcal circus out of my prerogative to fill these positions."

if he throws out Gonzo, he can only swipe at Democrats, in order to not look like a dork to his base- the part of it that doesnt already dislike AG over their red meat issues like shooting illegal drug runners on the border.

that is, if he had any balls.

code: expert...finally, some validation!

The Fool wrote on April 19, 2007 4:14 PM:

Remember when Bush wiped his glasses on the girl's sweater on the Letterman Show? He's wiping his a-ss with Alberto Gonzales now. Thanks Al, but you've outlived your usefulness. FLUSH!!!

A few weeks from now Bush will be saying, "Alberto Who? Isn't he the guy that contributed to my opponent Ann Richards?"

mbbsdphil wrote on April 19, 2007 4:23 PM:

Unfortunatley for the administration of justice, I don't believe Mr. Gonzales is going anywhere but back to his desk. As long as he has enough bones left to deflect the slings and arrows from Mr. Rove, he stays.

I think that Mr. Gonzales will stay because Mr. B never yields to reason. He turns every decision into a pissing contest or test of his manhood. (With all due repsect, I believe that's one of the warning signs for maladjusted behavior that responsible coverage of the Va. Tech. tragedy brought out. Mr. B has certainly resorted to violence to solve his problems, refuses to consider alternatives, and refuses to go to counseling.)

Another reason I think Mr. Gonzales will stay is because if Mr. Rove can't use the DOJ for electoral purposes, he'd just as soon as it didn't run at all. God forbid, it should be in good working order after he leaves; it might come after him.

Anonymous wrote on April 19, 2007 4:24 PM:

Gonzales says he'd like to know "who" the individual person or persons was/were who first suggested which USAs names should be placed on Sampson's list of USAs to be "pushed out". For some unfathomable reason, NO ONE SEEMS TO KNOW. Not Gonzales nor Sampson nor..................The list came from someone serving the political arm of the White House, Karl Rove.

Anonymous wrote on April 19, 2007 4:24 PM:

Sally-Monica Goodling is about to learn that lesson as well.

parrot wrote on April 19, 2007 4:43 PM:

Expecting there to be a long, drawn out impeachment of Gonzalez is unrealistic. It will be quick and painful...or he will resign the instant he gets a call from the House...much more likely he'd resign just before that.

I expect a statement from Conyers and Pelosi this evening or tomorrow morning if Gonzalez doesn't resign by 9PM this evening.

johnnydoughey wrote on April 19, 2007 4:58 PM:

Recently, there have been many office holders stating that "I take full responsibility" for various deeds (or lack thereof). In the past, this meant that there would be positive or negative consequences. Now, however, the word "responsibility" has become meaningless... might as well delete it from the dictionary and substitute the words "So What!".

parrot wrote on April 19, 2007 5:08 PM:

Actually, maybe he won't. Maybe Rove will figure that it is worth pushing the Latino voter sympathy angle by making it seem that the "racists" in Congress are beating up on poor ol' AG AG. Of course, that would mean that the Judiciary in the House will move up its schedule to get this over with well before the next elections...that would also make sense.

If AG AG didn't notice that some of the Republicans were looking like rather annoyed senior partners at an LLP...well...that would be such obvious obliviousness that it would probably just leave Cronyn and Hatch as the final gasp of support on SJC for screwing with the minds and moral of our DOJ.

B W wrote on April 19, 2007 5:11 PM:

"THIS VIDEO IS NO LONGER AVAILABLE"

damn :(

Leisureguy wrote on April 19, 2007 5:16 PM:

Could you post an explanation of why the video is no longer available? I'm curious, because by its description it's the most damning of the lot. (And maybe that's why, of course.)

section321 wrote on April 19, 2007 5:17 PM:

Dawn is right... "Yup, as the old Laker's announcer Chick Hearn would say, this game is in the fridge and the butter and eggs are cooling."

However Chicky-baby woulda said:
This ones in the refrigerator...
The eggs are cooling...
The butters getting hard...
And the jello is jigglin...

B W wrote on April 19, 2007 5:20 PM:

found it

Video: Sen. Tom Coburn (R-OK) to Gonzales: You should resign.
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/19/sen-tom-coburn-r-ok-to-gonzales/

scavok wrote on April 19, 2007 5:22 PM:

I never thought Rummy would go, but he did when he became too much of a liability. Now it is Abu's turn. Expect his resignation to be part of the Friday document dump.

The delay in announcing is probably due to the administration trying to find someone to be AG who can get through the Senate now. It's like trying to find a "War Czar".

On my short list of nominees is Patrick Fitzgerald, David Iglesias, and Carol Lam.

Or perhaps the Schadenfraude is getting to me.

United, I stand alone against collectivism wrote on April 19, 2007 6:34 PM:

I still can't believe that something is happening. I dunno, but it feels like... IT is happening. I can feel something changing. The big it. I dunno, maybe. Someone called it the "snowballing". I call it the "not the fall that kills ya, it's the sudden stop at the end". These are feeling like the days I've been waiting years for. The beginning of the end. Praise vishnu in the airport! Those of you who know me, and none of you do, know I love two things. Bar-b-que (I don't care how it's spelled), and watching kharma unfold itself like a beautiful flower. It might be the beer, could be the ribs, but it feels like the arch of the moral universe, paraphrasing Mr. King, is beginning to bend toward justice. Wanna know my secret code word? Tough shit. It's wunderwhosanexta.

bcg wrote on April 19, 2007 6:39 PM:

"The best way to put this behind us is your resignation."

This is probably the most significant sentence out of Coburn's mouth. The presumption is that, with AG gone, the impetus to the investigation of DoJ will go as well. If that's the case, any resignation should be refused.
As information that has come out over the last six weeks has shown, Bush(ies) has (have) corrupted the whole department. This investigation must continue until that corruption is rooted out, DoJ is taken out of the business of fixing elections and those ultimately responsible for this attempt to game the system are identified and, if appropriate, indicted. Anything short of that is an invitation for more of the same in 2008.
At the very least, the investigation should continue to tar the party that's responsible for this miasma. They should not be left to profit from it.

KYJurisDoctor wrote on April 20, 2007 7:45 PM:

I hate to admit it, but it is time for the AG to go. Join the conversation at: http://osi-speaks.blogspot.com/2007/04/alberto-gonzales-appears-on.html#links

steambomb wrote on April 22, 2007 4:18 PM:

I do wonder how much moral fortitude Lieberman has left. Why do I say that? Well it's simple. The only way I see Gonzo resigning is if Lieberman flips and caucuses with the repugs. I am fairly certain that he is being offered the moon right now. I just wonder if he will take the high road or continue his path to the dark side.

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