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The Justice Department is far from the only government agency troubled by politicization under the Bush administration. All you have to do is spin the wheel.
So today, it's the Fish and Wildlife Service! And at the center of it is one Julie A. MacDonald, appointed by Bush to be the deputy assistant secretary for fish and wildlife and parks at the Interior Department. The very ugly details of her malfeasance have been exposed by an inspector general report. (Update: MacDonald, by the way, has a degree is in civil engineering and has no formal educational background in natural sciences.)
Ms. MacDonald, whose job is to oversee policy decisions on endangered species and other wildlife, sent internal agency documents to industry lobbyists (e.g. she twice sent "internal Environmental Protection Agency documents — one involving water quality management — to individuals whose e-mail addresses ended in 'chevrontexaco.com,") and generally ran roughshod over agency scientists.
Here's how she works: MacDonald just made stuff up. If scientists recommended a certain action, MacDonald would alter the recommendation or simply ignore it if it threatened industry or landowners in any way.
Some examples of her scientific method:
MacDonald tangled with field personnel over designating habitat for the endangered Southwestern willow flycatcher, a bird whose range is from Arizona to New Mexico and Southern California. When scientists wrote that the bird had a "nesting range" of 2.1 miles, MacDonald told field personnel to change the number to 1.8 miles. Hall, a wildlife biologist who told the IG he had had a "running battle" with MacDonald, said she did not want the range to extend to California because her husband had a family ranch there.
And:
MacDonald argued with Hall over the Kootenai River sturgeon, a fish in Montana and Idaho that needs a certain level of river flow in order to spawn. Field biologists determined that the sturgeon's needed flow level ranged between 2.3 and 5.9 cubic feet per second, but MacDonald instructed them to cite only the 5.9 figure, which would have aided dam operators. After Hall demanded she put the request in writing, the report noted, "she ultimately relented and they kept the 2.3 to 5.9 range."
And:
...Ms. MacDonald lobbied for a decision to combine three different populations of the California tiger salamander into one, thus excluding it from the endangered-species list, and making the decision legally vulnerable. A federal district judge overturned it in 2005., saying the decision was made “without even a semblance of agency reasoning.”
The Interior Department's Inspector General has referred the case to Interior's top officials for "potential administrative action." We'll see if she gets a scolding or a pat on the head.
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Mrs Panstreppon wrote on March 30, 2007 9:18 AM:In a December 2006 Newsday article (link below), Ingred Redman, a Polytech librarian, wrote about the the Environmental Protection Agency quietly shutting down its 35-year-old national library with unwarranted haste. The library supposedly is being shut down to save a whopping $2 million.
"...In 2005, EPA libraries provided some 41,000 reference checks to EPA staff alone. Despite such heavy usage, the agency recently closed its headquarters library in Washington and three regional libraries serving 15 states. The regional library serving New York was spared, but with only one librarian remaining on staff it has reduced access to EPA employees and will soon no longer welcome walk-ins from the public or buy books or journals.
To aggravate matters, EPA closed the specialized Office of Prevention, Pollution and Toxic Substances Library in October without notice, which is required by federal policy when "significant information dissemination products" are to be terminated. The unique collection of this library, which contained studies on the potential effects of chemicals on children and extensive literature on emergency planning, is being stored in a basement cafeteria in Washington, says the watchdog group Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility. Even more shocking, many materials were directed to be tossed out..."
Anonymous wrote on March 30, 2007 9:23 AM:I wonder if she's a friend of monica. did she go to messiah too? or regent?
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bwindrip wrote on March 30, 2007 9:31 AM:The notion that we should not dwell on the past is pure bullshit.
A lot of people need to go, and a lot of damage needs to be undone.
Anonymous wrote on March 30, 2007 9:44 AM:Re-writing science, history, that past: This is right out of "1984." Orwell understood.
Muskrat wrote on March 30, 2007 9:45 AM:Don't forget what she did to the poor sage grouse:
http://www.muskratnews.com/200401LOTD/1206.html
bp wrote on March 30, 2007 9:47 AM:Can anyone find MacDonald cv?
Julie A. MacDonald SUCKS! wrote on March 30, 2007 9:48 AM:These are evil people. Not just bad people but evil people. They have no conscience. They only care about themselves.
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"We'll see if she gets a scolding or a pat on the head."
Sounds like she's earned her medal of freedom big time.
Anonymous wrote on March 30, 2007 9:51 AM:We'll see if she gets a scolding or a pat on the head.
Umm I'd say more likely she'll get a promotion. I hear there are some positions open at the DOJ these days. Plus I hear prezdential medals of freedom are for more high profile Loyal Bush Lackeys)
glichte wrote on March 30, 2007 9:52 AM:third option--she gets a medal of freedom
Ben Dover wrote on March 30, 2007 9:58 AM:The way the Bush Crime Family operates in the Department of the Interior, Julie will no doubt get a pat on the head, a time-off award for exceptional performance, and a promotion.
ba wrote on March 30, 2007 10:00 AM:One of the most under-reported stories--how the Bush Admin has set out to destroy EPA, F&W, the ESA, and privatize public lands. They will never come clean about it, as the public would never stand for it.
mbbsdphil wrote on March 30, 2007 10:01 AM:"He who controls the past, controls the present. He who controls the present controls the future."
Other commentators are absolutely correct. The public may have a short attention span and Congress a limited budget, but the acts and omissions of this administration have spread throughout all federal agencies. They need to be documented, undone, and where appropriate, charges need to be pursued.
Harder to deal with and potentially more damaging than short-term political appointees is Mr. Bush's practice of replacing talented career bureaucrats - skilfully hounded out of their careers - with new civil servants who are as poisonously committed to favoring private interests and derailing their agencies as any political appointee.
Mr. Bush thinks that any action is excusable if he can characterize it as "just politics". That rationalization may go unchallenged in his private life, or in failed businesses successively bankrolled by his father's cronies. It does not hold true for a public servant and government employee. Mr. Bush, after all, has at least legally been out of the private sector and on the public dole for six years and counting. Time he learned that in public employment, his "accountability moment" is not once every four years; it's every day.
anonymous wrote on March 30, 2007 10:05 AM:In an interview, MacDonald said that on critical habitat issues, the job of wildlife officials was to "get the developers what they want at the least cost to species."
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http://www.venturacountytrails.org/News/0096-OCTollway/NewsPage.htm
jeffgee wrote on March 30, 2007 10:07 AM:It's just one heckuva job after another in this administration.
mayan wrote on March 30, 2007 10:12 AM:DiIulio nailed it back in 2002 when he said "What you've got is everything-and I mean everything-being run by the political arm. It's the reign of the Mayberry Machiavellis."
There was a lot more in his letter to Ron Suskind about the way things worked in this White House. The only requirement for employment in BushWorld is loyalty, often demonstrated by willingness to give large amounts of cash to campaigns.
Since then, we have seen the consequences of Bush's choices.
And we all know that Interior itself has been a blinding beacon of integrity...a Temple of Good Government. Right? Whew. I so don't trust them to investigate.
Rick Cass wrote on March 30, 2007 10:14 AM:The USSR had Lysencko, and the Bushies (short for Bolsheviks) have MacDonald. One perverted biology to serve the State, the other perverted biology to serve the Corporations. Same difference.
biggerbox wrote on March 30, 2007 10:16 AM:Sounds like typical Bush administration 'science' to me. It's very similar to Philip Cooney and their approach to climate change.
If we're so lucky as to see Ms. McDonald sacked, I'm sure she'll land on her feet. Maybe her new email address will end in 'chevrontexaco.com'.
Betty wrote on March 30, 2007 10:23 AM:It's like a trainwreck. I can't stop watching.
Lynn Lightfoot wrote on March 30, 2007 10:32 AM:B
I recently heard Chris Hedges on Book TV (C-span 2) talking about his book American Fascists. One of the things he pointed out as a hallmark of fascists generally and a tactic that should tip one off as to just what kind of person one is dealing with is that fascists "hollow out the meaning of words." Those would be words such as 'compassionate,' 'Christian,' 'conservative.' It occurs to me as I'm writing this that after they have trashed important words long enough, they begin to use them as labels for actions the very opposite of the true meanings, and probably even the liars themselves have begun by then think they are just "tweaking" the truth.
workaday joe wrote on March 30, 2007 10:32 AM:This gang has progressed from hollowing out the meaning of words to "hollowing out institutions." Those would be institutions such as the civil service of the United States of America, the legal system of the United States of America, the United States of America as a constitutional democracy.
They are termites. They have been destroying us.
These second- and third-tier appointees are largely in control of government policy and the people you put in those positions are absolutely critical to the government function. We see this time and again with Bush. Brownie, Steven Griles, the Walter Reed operations, Douglas Feith, even Gale Norton to a large extent. He appoints people with open disdain for the agencies they run and the jobs they are supposed to do.
Yet it is impossible really impossible to run an effective campaign on who you will appoint to oversee an agency in a particular department. For example, do you think Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton would choose a better head of the Fish and Wildlife Service? Personally I think that would be Hillary, but we really have no way of knowing.
I guess prior to this administration you had to have faith that even if you disagreed with a particular appointee, they were at least competent and somewhat interested in running the agency they were appointed to. Bush has really changed the rules on that. It takes us all the way back to the Grant administration when the Federal Bureaucracy was just getting its legs and most of the people involved saw it as an opportunity to pay back their brother-in-law rather than a legitimate office with a specific mission.
I've often wondered if the Netroots community should hold virtual primaries for these second and third-tier agency positions and come up with a list of acceptable candidates. Then if we do finally get a Dem Prez, we may have some leverage to influence how the government actually works.
Jimi wrote on March 30, 2007 10:35 AM:Science? What is this science you speak so fondly of? Bush Administration decisions come from the gut.
sean wrote on March 30, 2007 10:45 AM:"Family ranch"?! I think we have a winner in the corruption sweepstakes here. I mean, plenty of people are industry shills, but it takes a certain special something to take that extra "family" step.
BinGA wrote on March 30, 2007 10:52 AM:On of your reports says: "After Hall demanded [MacDonald] put the request in writing, the report noted, "she ultimately relented and they kept the 2.3 to 5.9 range.""
Big kudos to Hall. Wish more civil servants would do just that - demand their marching orders be put in writing, and create a paper trail that leads back to these sycophants.
George wrote on March 30, 2007 10:54 AM:Paul, Keep looking into this, there's LOTS to find.
There are stories of the woman showing up at an Atlantic Salmon meeting and telling the assembled world-renowned experts that they knew nothing about salmon biology, but she knew what had to be done.
She is also good at calling field biologists directly to intimidate them. She has been out of control for years and it's about time the media exposed the abuse and corruption.
Anonymous wrote on March 30, 2007 10:57 AM:These clowns have created the perfect storm for endless liability claims against the government for years to come.
Is this Grover's third leg of "drowning government in that bathtub"?
Allen wrote on March 30, 2007 11:06 AM:I'm not quite sure what to make of the seemingly surprised reactions here to Ms McDonald's behavior or of that of any GOP political appointee. And as for "1984," that is the playbook for the GOP. Totalarianism is the very basis of conservatism. As George Seldes told us over 70 years ago, conservatism is the precursor of fascism and fascism is the goal of ever conservative. While our European brothers and sisters learned the hard lessons of the 1920s, 1930s, and 1940s, we have not. Had it not been for FDR, the United States would have partnered with Hitler. Until real Americans come to understand that conservatives hate democracy, hate the U.S. Constitution, and are dedicated to to desctruction of democracy, we are at great peril. Further, we are in error if we think Dubya is an anomaly. He is the personfication of the perfect conservative, Republican. We are in error when we, true Americans, do not identify the real enemy: conservatives, aka, Republicans. There is no such thing as a good conservative. There is no such thing as a good Republican. The threat of Al Qaeda pales before the threat of conservatives, Republicans. While Osama bin Laden is an enemy of the United States, he is nothing compared to the GOP.
John Callender wrote on March 30, 2007 11:13 AM:Check out top responses to 2005 survey of US Fish and Wildlife Service Ecological Services division employees, specifically their answers to the question, "42. The integrity of the scientific work produced by USFWS Ecological Services could best be improved by:"
The first item in the responses (which were ordered by with the most-frequent responses first) says:
I. Removing politics/political influence over scientific decisions (Mentioned by 32% of all survey respondents)
R1
Removal of Julie McDonald from Dept of Interior. I have never before seen the boldness of intimidation demonstrated by a single political appointee. She has modified the behavior of the entire agency. I believe there should be a thorough investigation of her abuse of discretionary authority and modification of science information provided in FWS documents.
R1
The biological determinations of the field offices should not be ignored and overridden by non-biologists in the Interior. If they must override field office biological determinations they should do so early in the process rather than at the last minute.
R1
Exposing interference at the department level (Julie MacDonald).
(me again)
Responses like that go on for page after page. It's quite compelling.
John Callender wrote on March 30, 2007 11:14 AM:Oops. And the URL:
John Callender wrote on March 30, 2007 11:17 AM:http://www.ucsusa.org/assets/documents/jump.jsp?origID=pdf-982
MacDonald's CV (in brief, at least) is in this press release announcing her appointment:
http://www.doi.gov/news/040503b
MacDonald is a civil engineer with a master's degree in management. She began her federal career as a hydraulic engineer with Interior's Bureau of Reclamation in 1979. In 1987, she commenced a distinguished career in public policy. She has been a staff consultant in the California Legislature and served as senior staff to the California Senate minority leader. Governor Pete Wilson later appointed her as Associate Secretary of the state Health and Welfare Agency and then in 1996, as Deputy Secretary for Legislative Affairs in the California Resources Agency. In the latter position, she was responsible for gaining bipartisan passage of new provisions in the California Endangered Species Act.
Rayne wrote on March 30, 2007 11:32 AM:Ditto the questions above about what school McDonald went to, and what her CV looks like.
There is absolutely NO excuse for a civil engineer not to have a better grasp of science; all engineers graduating from solid schools here in the States have essentially the same core science and math classes, before they specialize in their field. I say this as a former engineering student, whose father and husband both have master's degrees in engineering and a brother with a bachelor's in engineering. Each of them have different fields of specialization, from electrical to civil to mechanical, and all of them have a strong grasp on fundamental math and science.
Cripes, imagine shaving off more than 26% off any calculation required as a electrical, structural (branch of civil) or mechanical engineering in the same cavalier fashion that McDonald demanded 26% be shaved off the flycatcher's nesting range area...the results would be catastrophic. The math here is so simple that a grade school student could calculate it: Nesting range area = (pi)x(radius squared) -- rough approximation, mind you.
McDonald is both a hack and corrupt. Period.
bmaz wrote on March 30, 2007 11:45 AM:Pat on the head? Hell she will be our next Attorney General.
donviti wrote on March 30, 2007 11:50 AM:I should get her to measure my penis
Robin L.Boerner wrote on March 30, 2007 12:36 PM:I should get her to measure my penis
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If it's over four inches and a complete three piece set it's over the legal limit for men as set by the Bush Administration. Stuffing is allowed by decree of a signing statement for anyone declaring victory in a flight suit on a naval ship though.
Bugboy wrote on March 30, 2007 12:41 PM:We're going to need to do something about property rights before we get any meaningful progress on species protection. Habitat destruction is the leading cause of species extinction, we now know.
Too many people are claiming absolute right to do whatever they damn well please with their piece of the pie, even if it means turning it into a smoking cinder, along with everything else around it. All in the name of constitutionally granted property rights.
Additionally, we've spent 40 years looking through the soda straw at wetlands, particularly down here in Florida, to the detriment of the uplands and the species that inhabit them.
I'm convinced this is because developers didn't view wetlands as valueable when environmental laws began appearing, and so they cried "uncle", which environmentalists saw as a victory. Little did we know it was a loss leader.
Now those wetlands are increasing being eyeballed by developers, land banks are being used so they can develop previously protected wetlands, and wetland boundaries are being shifted ever so gradually farther into the everglades.
The old joke about selling you a piece of Florida swampland ain't a joke any more.
Anonymous wrote on March 30, 2007 12:50 PM:You might want to look into other examples of combining various sub-species into larger groups at Fish and Wildlife to circumvent endangered species status. I hear it's been rampant for a while there.
donviti wrote on March 30, 2007 12:58 PM:I threw out my flight suit a few years back. I had assumed this thing was all wrapped up in in 2004.
djcrow22 wrote on March 30, 2007 1:08 PM:Hey Robin B. you made my day:}...
Ginger Yellow wrote on March 30, 2007 2:19 PM:Chris Mooney's book The Republican War on Science has lots of info on the hackery at the FWS under Bush.
Robin L.Boerner wrote on March 30, 2007 2:31 PM:Thanks djcrow22.
donviti...great site. I love that screen shot of Faux News demonizing the Democrats. They are not the least bit subtle anymore. I had a Republican father as well.
Anonymous wrote on March 30, 2007 3:06 PM:Rayne: It has nothing to do with your actual education and everything to do with what your political and religious beliefs tell you to do with that education.
Here in the Bible Belt, engineers, doctors, lawyers, teachers and PhD scientists who will tell you to your face that evolution is bunk or condoms don't work or climate change is a hoax are a dime a dozen.
When I find one whose actions and words reflect actual reality, I want to bundle her up and hide her in the basement until the end of the Interregnum.
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Yellow Dog wrote on March 30, 2007 3:07 PM:Rayne: It has nothing to do with your actual education and everything to do with what your political and religious beliefs tell you to do with that education.
Here in the Bible Belt, engineers, doctors, lawyers, teachers and PhD scientists who will tell you to your face that evolution is bunk or condoms don't work or climate change is a hoax are a dime a dozen.
When I find one whose actions and words reflect actual reality, I want to bundle her up and hide her in the basement until the end of the Interregnum.
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eyesonthestreet wrote on March 30, 2007 3:21 PM:McDonald, from the CV listed above held her first government job in 1979, she is hardly a "youngster." If she were hired right out of college, with a masters as the CV states, she would be in her 50's.
Do the math: 1979- 6 (years to get a masters) = 1973, year she would have graduated from high school, at about 18 years old. 1973-18= 1955,or year she was born, making her 52, or something near that.
I think there is a naive comfort for critics of this administration to write off the transgressions to underqualified "youngsters." That is not true, most are boomers, and they certainly knew exactly what they were doing. I don't thnk the pat on the head image is relevant.
victoid wrote on March 30, 2007 3:34 PM:The Democrats in Congress are going to need to establish a triage center to cope with the tidal wave of pus and decay that is being released as a result of their investigatory oversight.
The deep rot in every governmental agency has been festering under Republican neglect for the past six years, and many of the patients are clinically dead.
Of course, the attempts to stanch the gangrenous atrophy will be called "overreach" and "partisan politcal witch hunts" by our noble commentariat and the dedicated gatekeepers of public information in the corporate media.
I hope the American public has the stomach to watch and not turn away in disgust.
Bugboy wrote on March 30, 2007 4:19 PM:@eyesonthestreet
I agree, while the young age of these high level characters looks very strange, we don't need to let them cop on the age/lack of experience plea.
They knew what they were doing and they were doing it as hard and as fast as they could before the cat could get out of the bag.
donviti wrote on March 30, 2007 4:31 PM:Thanks robin I try to clue the old man in now and then. He is coming around. He says he only watches CNBC these days.
He is what I like to call a head in sand republican. His retirement portfolio is doing great so he could care less what Bush does.
fcadmus wrote on March 30, 2007 5:00 PM:workday joe talks about the second and third tier political appointments and the influence they have, the damage they have done (like Brownie, Feith, etc.). You can add to this name those knuckleheads who dismissed the Iranian message shuttled through Switzerland, seeking to work with the Administration in the fight against terror, Afgahnistan and Iraq. I think George Tennet, John Bolton, Condi Rice and Mr. Woo can be mentioned with infamy...
Rayne wrote on March 30, 2007 5:26 PM:John Callender 11:17am -- rather thin CV, and suspect because it's posted by the feds. No schools named? I wouldn't even interview her based on that much info, would you?
donviti 11:50am -- dude, I'd be worried she'd treat your member like that nesting range. Or do you need 26% less p*nis? (I don't know a man who'd ever say that.)
yellowdog 3:07pm -- yeah, I know, I've heard about a machine tooling outfit in TX that when asked for their quality control manual, whipped out a Bible. Like that isn't a reason American jobs get shipped overseas...
bunny99 wrote on March 30, 2007 7:27 PM:I am not surprised, and read about the EPZA closings months back. Outrageous, and nobody in
hitnrun wrote on March 30, 2007 8:33 PM:congress did a thing. The only qualification required to work for this administration is to be a corporate hack completely loyal to Bush, nothing else matters.
Experience, education, knowledge, are all irrelavent. So long as you swear loyalty to the Decider, you're good as gold.
If anyone wonders why we are so screwed up, there's the answer. In the last six years, we've been run by totally unqualified unquestioning robots, who don't have a clue about running a country, but are expert at ruining a country. The power of the Republican Party was the end game, not the American people.
Thank heyzeus we have people like this woman to protect us from "agency scientists" whose job it is to make "recommendations" cordoning off vast tracts of the country from "development"- that is, building things for people to inhabit, traverse, and make a living.
If there's one thing that the public has hopefully acquired a taste for during the Bush administration, it's the suspension of the "endangered species" debate, wherein silver-spooned, FAFSA-skipping deadheads decree that no one (else) is allowed to live in remote areas because it could conceivably interfere with the mating of photogenic animals.
Elliott Lake wrote on March 31, 2007 2:19 AM:Wrong hitnrun--as someone who farms in a remote area and would like it to remain remote, not paved and polluted, so there will still be air and water left to live on--there are not vast tracts of land left to cordon off, roadless areas are minuscule compared to what they used to be, the forests are depleted, the wolves dead, the lakes polluted with lead, and the only ones that benefitted are the mining and logging interests whose money mostly goes out of state, the developers (ditto) and the party hacks who get contributions from them. These folks seem to think if they or their buddies can't make money off of, or rip across killing things, land is of no use. Well---my neighbot's got a devastatingly ugly yard full of junk that's sat there for years, and some photogenic animals. Does that mean I get to rev up my tractor and rip up his yard--tear down his house--(I'm not making money off that land while he's living on it--)?
We westerners did not fall for the specious developer-from-out-of-state funded "property rights" laws they tried to pass last year, seeing the land grab for what it was.
You also display a remarkable inferiority complex regarding women, minorities, "heyzeus" and science.
Bill wrote on March 31, 2007 11:14 PM:Keeping rural areas rural enough for us farmers to grow the food the country needs to live on is not some politically correct plot, it's good common sense.
Can anyone find her phone number or email?
sonoffar wrote on April 1, 2007 11:05 AM:Thanks
So now the Depts. are sort of working for the people? Seems like for the last two decades, the country has been driven by junk science and socialist environmental dip shits.
brtney@hotmail.com wrote on April 26, 2007 10:25 PM:If McDonald has taken the unheard of direction of actually working for the people who are forced to fund all the environmental BS that comes down the Pike,
I'd like the honor of presenting her with a medal of freedom or even her next pay check.....sounds like she might be one of the very few who is actually earning hers.
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Protect Pine Mtn wrote on May 16, 2007 1:27 AM:I read about the Dept of Interior's tactics in the May 9, 2007 edition of the Jackson Hole (WY)News & Guide. I was interested in seeing the name, "Julie MacDonald", the former Dept of Interior employee whose underhanded tactics were revealed.
The Rock Springs, WY BLM Field Office recently issued a contract to place a gravel pit on the top of Pine Mtn in southwest Sweetwater County, WY. The location for the pit is in crucial elk winter range, and an elk parturition (birthing)area and is home to antelope, moose, black bear, mule deer and sage grouse. Apparently, the BLM
Assistant Field Manager sat with his staff in the office, talked about excavating a 10 acre gravel pit with the attendant impacts such as widening 15' wide wilderness roads so that 60 foot long belly dumps carrying 27 tons/load could travel in and out 16 times/day. The gravel is first excavated by bulldozers, then crushed and screened before being stockpiled and loaded into belly dumps (unload from the bottom of a dump) on the top of this pristine alpine mountain. Incredibly, the BLM Manager wrote his own environmental report and gave it a "FONSI" (Finding of No Significant Impact) designation. There was NO public input - no input of state Game & Fish folks, no notice to the public, no chance for people who want to picnic/hunt/ recreate to say a word. You can read about it at www.greenriverstar.com.
The BLM manager's name is John MacDonald - anyone know if any relation to Julie???
Protect Pine Mountain
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