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Ian wrote on March 13, 2007 5:32 PM:

I think Specter just trotted out the big talking point. From the NYT:

The top Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee, Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania, seemed to want to give the White House the benefit of the doubt, for now, but said the administration should offer explanations. “The situation has become so convoluted that I think the administration would be best served for people to come forward and discuss the matter, even if they acted entirely properly,� Mr. Specter said in an interview on Monday.

Um...weren't you talking tough about Gonzalez going the other day, Arlen? Isn't this your m.o.?
Talk tough and prop up the regime. Isn't it time someone ask him his role in all of this?

Citizen 92 wrote on March 13, 2007 5:33 PM:

Ok, now please explain to me why Scott Jennings, a government-salaried White House staffer, is using the gwb43.com domain to send out his email.

The gwb43.com domain is owned by the Republican National Committee.

By sending e-mail through this domain instead of the White House's own system (who.eop.gov) is the White House Office of Political Affairs putting Presidential Records and communications out of the government's hands -- and into the RNC's?

stephen wrote on March 13, 2007 5:40 PM:

Yuck another pilsberry dough boy Karl Rove Wanna Be. How come these guy all look like "Rolly Polly little rat face Boys" (Appologise to Paul Simon) that you just want to not even touch let alone look at. You know what kind of a hand shke this guy has...soft and sweaty!

cevrero wrote on March 13, 2007 5:48 PM:

Oh yes little Timmy has got those Rovey cheeks,....he's perfect for the job, he just needs a little experience doing some more dirty work in California.

Mimi Schaeffer wrote on March 13, 2007 5:48 PM:

Let me get this straight.

Would-be Supreme Court Justice Harriet Miers wanted to fire every last one of the U.S. attorneys in early 2005...

Oh yes, making sure Fitzgerald got the ax along with the rest of the gamy gang would've proven to the world that there was absolutely NOTHING political going on. Just a little housekeeping after the elections.

No Libby indictmnet. No cloud over Cheney and the White House. Just another example of how hard it is for the public to get to the root of classified leaks by government officials, like Dubya feared and told reporters at a press conference right after Valerie Plame was outed.

anonymous wrote on March 13, 2007 5:49 PM:

True, but the DOJ document dump shows they were looking at putting Griffin in the E.D.Ark. as early as March of 2005.

I think the note on using the gwb43.com domain email for this is worth following out, too.

rk wrote on March 13, 2007 5:49 PM:

Am I wrong or 1)would it be impossible to claim executive privilege on communications/data that are not the property of the U.S. Goverment and 2)shouldn't Congress immediately subpoena all data from the gwb43.com domain so that it is not destroyed?

Mrs Panstreppon wrote on March 13, 2007 5:58 PM:

Excellent question, C92.

kis wrote on March 13, 2007 6:02 PM:

The plot thickens on page 22 of the first document dump -

Sampson: [Call me to discuss] ... The real problem we have right now with Carol Lam that leads me to conclude that we should have someone ready to be nominated on 11/18, the day her 4-year term expires.

powkat wrote on March 13, 2007 6:11 PM:

Stephen - I was thinking more 'Children of the Damned" Notice the eyes?

oppositionradio wrote on March 13, 2007 6:16 PM:

wow kis - nice catch. who is following where that thread leads? straight to duncan hunter i suspect.

kentuck wrote on March 13, 2007 6:16 PM:

Both sides are in the spin mode. What is legal and acceptable and what is criminal and unacceptable? Who knows? It seems we need to have some type of professional investigation to find out what is true and what is not and whether or not laws have been broken or if there has been obstruction of justice or some misuse of the Dept of Justice?

Anonymous wrote on March 13, 2007 6:16 PM:

Citizen 92 raises an incredibly important point! So important as to prompt me to post something (which I never do).

Why the hell are we talking about how fat Karl's grunts are, instead of how many presidential records might be slipping through the cracks? Don't think that just because they included this in "the dump" that they intend to treat the gwb43.com domain as part of the presidential record in the future. Remember folks, these people try to invalidate court cases by saying "we're not doing it anymore so it's no longer an issue for the courts..." (read: NSA wiretapping, Gitmo detainees, ...)

Paul Kiel, at a minimum you need to pull a Carney and call a couple Democrats on the Hill for their thoughts...start with Schumer.

William Ockham wrote on March 13, 2007 6:17 PM:

It's not just Jennings. Notice that he copied kr@georgewbush.com on one of the emails. Anybody want to guess how those 250 emails in the Plame case got lost? Maybe because everybody in Rove's operation at the WH doesn't use .gov email addresses?

Anonymous wrote on March 13, 2007 6:20 PM:

God damn it! Issue the fucking subpoenas for the IT guy at the White House right now! And get someone one the job of cross-referencing every email we have from these bastards so we can put together a list of the other domains to subpoena!

Skeptic wrote on March 13, 2007 6:31 PM:

During the Clinton administration, they shut down all access to hotmail, aol and other external web mail access from eop.gov computers. You could only use the eop's Lotus Notes.

Why? Because the Office of Records Management feared that they weren't able to accurately capture Presidential Records?

Why that? Because Ken Starr and the various special prosecutors kept beating up on the career IT people who ran the White House networks back then accusing them of erasing information, wiping tapes, etc, etc.

So why the double standard, Karl?

[of course, this is way before personal wireless email too, so using the EOP's computers was your only option]

"Presidential Records" and "Government Records" are created by government workers. And those records must be properly captured and archived. If Scott Jennings was earning a White House salary and sending emails from inside the White House, even from the gwb43.com domain, he was creating a "Presidential Record." His failure to appropriately archive that information would amount to an ethics violation, and possibly more. There is extensive administrative law to back this up - a lot of it thanks to Nixon's antics.

Clearly the Bush administration is operating fast and very loose with Presidential records.

Citizen92 wrote on March 13, 2007 6:34 PM:

And don't foget how the Administration dug in its heels over releasing the Secret Service visitor records for Abramoff, Jeff Gannon, and the VP's Energy Task force, etc.

They stonewalled, obfuscated and then eventually signed a half-a*sed "agreement" with the Secret Service that the records were "Presidential" and protected.

Why? Because the Secret Service uses government computers. They couldn't obscure the records in the gwb43.com domain.

kis wrote on March 13, 2007 6:34 PM:

For reference, that quote about Carol Lam was from an email on May 11th, 2006. On May 12th, the FBI raided CIA official Dusty Foggo's home in connection with the Cunningham scandal.

Coincidence?

Dem-agog wrote on March 13, 2007 6:44 PM:

As more Dems call for hearings expect to hear the following: Executive Privilege.

Rove will never testify. He, and Gonzales, will depart the WH only when George Bush departs.

That really only leaves one alternative.

Node of Evil wrote on March 13, 2007 6:47 PM:

Hey, will this Google find win me a coveted quote-of-the-day award?:

'D. Kyle Sampson, his deputy chief of staff, said that "talking about a White House mafia or something like that would not accurately characterize his openness and inclusiveness."'

(source )

...bonus: my security code fot this post was "memory".

Node of evil wrote on March 13, 2007 6:49 PM:

...Argh, I guess I can't do regular links:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/04/AR2005070400883.html

Mike Conwell wrote on March 13, 2007 6:51 PM:

Three cheers for Citizen92 for illuminating the email issue.

Note that Scott Jennings actual "signature", as it is termed in Microsoft Outlook, includes the gwb43.com email address. He's not just a victim of whomever configured his computer.

TPM Guys - This is a very interesting tack to pursue to find out what's going on in the rest of the White House.

Security Code is "Good"
Magic Black Eight Ball says "It is decidedly so"

Mike Conwell wrote on March 13, 2007 7:05 PM:

georgewbush.com and GWB43.com mail servers both operated by

OrgName: SMARTECH CORPORATION
OrgID: SCOR
Address: PO BOX 11181
City: Chattanooga
StateProv: TN
PostalCode: 37401
Country: US

gwb43.com MX preference = 10, mail exchanger = mailscan1.smartechcorp.net
gwb43.com MX preference = 10, mail exchanger = mailscan2.smartechcorp.net

georgewbush.com MX preference = 10, mail exchanger = mailscan2.smartechcorp.net
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lestatdelc wrote on March 13, 2007 7:40 PM:

GWB43.com google turns up:

Note from the Small Business Administration
The Small Business Administration needs several candidates to put on their various boards (National Advisory Council, Regulatory Fairness Board, etc.). If you know a small business owner who might be interested in this opportunity, please email Jane Cherry at jcherry@gwb43.com.

Thanks!

Scott Jennings, White House Office of Political Affairs

Presidential Boards and Commissions Looking for Nominations from Kentuckians
*Scott Jennings, a hard working fellow Kentucky Republican, that is now working in the White House is circulating this list of Presidential Boards and Commissions openings looking for suggestions of any possible nominees from Kentucky.

We are looking for some qualified people to serve on a few Bush Administration Boards and Commissions. Take a look at the list, and if you have anyone please forward a resume—

*National Council on Disabilities – 4 Vacancies
*President’s Council on Physical Fitness – 12 vacancies
*Advisory Council on Historic Preservation – 1 vacancy; someone who is a superstar in the area of historic preservation

J. Scott Jennings
Associate Director
White House Office of Political Affairs
sjennings@gwb43.com
Office: 202-456-5275

security word "attack"

unpoetaloco wrote on March 13, 2007 7:41 PM:

Specter's playing his usual supporting role: feign initial outrage, urge caution until all the facts are in, determine after much handwringing that the administration could have done things better, after which he bends over and grabs his ankles.

psd wrote on March 13, 2007 8:17 PM:

is my memory failing, or did earlier Bud Cummins say that the DoJ didn't even know he was going to the private sector BEFORE he was booted out? I seem to remember someone in DoJ testifying that they knew he was leaving and that's why they had a replacement ready. But then Bud supposedly testified that he didn't even tell the DoJ he was looking at a position in the private sector until AFTER he was told he was getting canned. Help, somebody, please tell me if I imagined this. I'm confused.

(i can't believe this--my security code is memory!)

peterboy wrote on March 13, 2007 8:22 PM:

Maybe they could get the NSA database to check on all the emails sent out by those folks via laundered ip addresses.

luvsgoats wrote on March 13, 2007 8:26 PM:

I have not much of value to add beyone astonishment at how SMART all you'uns are!

Besides, the security word was GOAT and I happen to have a big bunch of em.... it was just too serendipitous, if that's a word, and I couldn't pass it up. Keep up the good work all you TPM readers. I'm proud of you.

Leta wrote on March 13, 2007 8:33 PM:

UPDATE from a previous post (see below)

Graves the for USA in Western MO and his wife's and brother-in-law no bids...given by Gov Blunt (R) - due to the conflict of interest Graves resigns and the "case" involving the Gov's no bids is sent tooooooooo....the Eastern District of Arkansas, yes Bud Cummins land, now Tim Griffin land - was Cummins getting too close to the Blunt's? Is that why Cummins had to go - you can bet that Tim Griffin isn't "looking" into the Republican Gov of Mo's involvement and shenighans.

Senator's McCaskill, Pryor and Lincoln need to have a pow woo - the more I dig, the more enlighting it becomes.
----------------------------------------

How about a look see into the Western District of MO.
Graves steps down quietly in March of '06. Speculation is that his wife's and brothers multi-million dollar no-bid contracts to run MO license bureaus was at the heart of the resignation, go deeper and you get this; Washington was getting a lot of pressue for the USA to investigate Gov Blunt (R) for the fore mentioned no-bid contracts. Can ya see a conflict...DAHHH
By quietly resigning the possiblity of a MO USA investigation of Blunt and the no-bids were stymied.
That same month (3/06)Bradley Scholzman is appoint the new USA - well Scholzman is from the Washington DOJ and his specialty you ask? All things voters - rights, machines.....possibly out of the same rat hole that Griffin occupied (will try and verify that). At the time of Scholzman appointment it was never mentioned that he'd be a "temp".
This is the state were Claire McCaskill was going to war with incumbent Jim Talent. Scholzman skirts the Senate confirmation process for 9 months - and to everyone's surprise - Tim Woods, another Washington connected DOJ attorney is appointed to take Scholzman's place.
You got to wonder what the musical chairs was about and what mischief was being done behind the scenes in MO. Were the Democrats targeted, was there interference by the USA concerning voter "stuff". Was there USA or FBI "inquiries" into candidates or friends of candidates...all under the quise of an "investigation"
Were there any Democrats indicted, pressured, "talked to"...etc by the MO USA.

This is yet another thing that needs some "looking into" and Senator McCaskill should be the point person.

Mrs panstreppon wrote on March 13, 2007 8:45 PM:

Josh was beaming on Olbermann just now and why not? Josh and Paul and everyone else at the TPM have done fabulous, fabulous work on this story!

Take a big bow, guys!

Arknansan wrote on March 13, 2007 8:46 PM:

What's this? I found it on Yahoo.

http://66.218.69.11/search/cache?p=gwb43.com&fr=yfp-t-501&toggle=1&ei=UTF-8&u=www.robtex.com/dns/ishpf.com.html&w=%22gwb43+.com%22&d=HglseBIeOXaO&icp=1&.intl=us

Node of Evil wrote on March 13, 2007 9:08 PM:

That is the domain for a whole host of Republican websites, including all sorts of Astroturf-ish stuff. They host lots of campaign sites too. Does anyone remember what "parody" sites were designed by Episode 49 for the 2006 election? Did they do some of the hits on Ford, for instance? Anyways, this is one of the internet equivalents of "the borg" that is the right-wing noise machine online.

busted wrote on March 13, 2007 9:12 PM:

" By sending e-mail through this domain instead of the White House's own system (who.eop.gov) is the White House Office of Political Affairs putting Presidential Records and communications out of the government's hands -- and into the RNC's? "

Hey, that's a really good question, and typical of the utter mendacity of this admin.

Look at the OSP, the VP's cherry picking operation used to manufacture intelligence they could cite to justify the war. They've a long history of Nixon-esq deceptions and it's about time they were called on them.

justintime wrote on March 13, 2007 9:13 PM:

Interesting that Kyle Sampson, the Gonzales lacky who just resigned is a former Orrin Hatch staffer.
As Judiciary Committee Member, has Orrin said anything about this scandalous abuse of the Judicial system?

busted wrote on March 13, 2007 9:16 PM:

"Would-be Supreme Court Justice Harriet Miers wanted to fire every last one of the U.S. attorneys in early 2005..."

Which they decided against becasue it would create too much attention. Instead, they hoped to slip through this round of most critical firings, and make use of the Patriot provision. All were in proximity to important cases or where USA refused to roll over for political pressure.

Remember this was in the works before November, and Republicans though they'd hold the Senate amd could get away with it easilly.

Mrs Panstreppon wrote on March 13, 2007 9:29 PM:

Arknansan, I followed your link to:

http://www.robtex.com/dns/gwb43.com.html

I don't know what it all means but it looks interesting. Are all of the domains connected to the GOP?

Richard L. Adlof wrote on March 13, 2007 9:32 PM:

Snagged by e-mails . . . You'd think they'd have learned from the Abramoff and Scanlan thingy that 'Internets' is not their friend.

It is freaky to think that George Bush might be the smart one in this Administration.

busted wrote on March 13, 2007 9:41 PM:

"Snagged by e-mails . . . You'd think they'd have learned from the Abramoff and Scanlan thingy that 'Internets' is not their friend."

The way these things always unravel is with an underling who talks too much and leaves a trail. Then you work up the food chain.

Republicans are just waiting to see if they're compartmentalized enough to maintain deniability, promising their first born to the devil if they escape this mess unscathed.

I'm really concerned about what investigation Lam's replacement may be sabotaging. Particularly in the Dusty Foggo continuing investigations, which is pretty near the top of the food chain. The guy was well connected, #2 in the CIA, apparently running a corruption and prostitution racket, and has a questionable past and might know a lot of unpleasant things. Josh is covering that issue, but nobody else is.

Jack wrote on March 13, 2007 10:03 PM:

Title 10, Section 1001 United States Code

Except as otherwise provided in this section, whoever, in any matter within the jurisdiction of the...legislative...branch of the Government of the United States, knowingly and willfully falsifies, conceals, or covers up...a material fact; makes any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or representation; or makes or uses any false writing or document knowing the same to contain any materially false..statement..
shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 5 years

This would surely qualify as a high crime or misdemeanor. Send these no-talent assclowns back to Texas.

Jack wrote on March 13, 2007 10:08 PM:

Make that Title 18, Section 1001. DOH!

Anon wrote on March 13, 2007 10:41 PM:

On the email DNS info, the TN PO Box [ PO BOX 11181 ] for that site also Matches Bush's AgendaForAmerica site.

Isn't it illegal for White House employees to conduct political actdivity using White House facilities; why is the WH staffer using a site's email that is related to Bush's campaign PAC?

Arknansan wrote on March 13, 2007 11:13 PM:

"Isn't it illegal for White House employees to conduct political actdivity using White House facilities; why is the WH staffer using a site's email that is related to Bush's campaign PAC?"

Didn't Al Gore get into deep doo doo for using the official phone? Are phones the same as computers?

Ticia wrote on March 13, 2007 11:30 PM:

Started GonzoGate today as a subsection of Impeachment Watch.

Best,
Tish

Al in Austex wrote on March 14, 2007 5:50 AM:

Here's a question - Can an oversight committee in Congress , be debriefed by Lam , regarding her ousting as the USA on the Foggo, Dukester, Lewis and now perhaps Porter Goss /CIA / Whores/earmark and no bid contracts investigation. How do we preserve the good work that Prosecutors Lam's team did so far -without compromising "an ongoing criminal invetsigation " .How do we deny the Republican Puke that replaced Lam the opportunity to bury the rest of the criminal activity related to the prior Lam indictments et al ?

Specter + Patriot wrote on March 14, 2007 8:03 AM:

"Here's a question - Can an oversight committee in Congress , be debriefed by Lam , regarding her ousting as the USA on the Foggo, Dukester, Lewis and now perhaps Porter Goss /CIA / Whores/earmark and no bid contracts investigation. "

Good question. Barring some sort of impeachment of Gonzalez, and or Bush himself, and/or deal to relinquish investigation to a special investigator... hard to say. something along those lines should be possible though as it becoems clear how crooked the WH and appointments in the DoJ are trying to derail the investigation.

ahem wrote on March 14, 2007 4:21 PM:

Well, I've just sent Henry Waxman's committee a message about the gwb43.com thing. Since he's looking at the Presidential Records Act, I suspect it might interest him.

noshrub wrote on March 14, 2007 6:56 PM:

this is getting creepy...what's with the gwb43 email address...

Patriotscholar wrote on March 19, 2007 2:08 PM:

First of all, the Republican party seems to have employed Smartech Corp for their email administration. Ok...mails sent through these servers would/should not be covered under executive privilege.
Secondly, allowing the connections to these servers (Bellsouth, QWest, etc...), is it possible that these servers are themselves a conduit to political eavesdropping and/or tracking as well?
Just some thoughts.

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